See SURMOUNT-4 cited a lot in tapering discussions, often slightly wrong, so here's my attempt at describing what the withdrawal arm actually showed rather than the…
Tapering Off
c/tapering · created 24 Jun 2024
Coming off deliberately. Interval stretching, regain data, and honesty.
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With oral meds, tapering usually means smaller pills or fewer per day, a fairly intuitive mechanical process. With a weekly injection, what does the community actually…
Noticing a lot of regain posts use "relapse", borrowed pretty directly from addiction/recovery language. Genuinely asking whether that framing helps or hurts here — on…
Reporting in. came off deliberately over four months, regained 4kg not 24. The relevant figures are 4kg, and they come from the same log I have kept the whole time. The…
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Browse resultsSlightly embarrassed to be asking this, but: what the STEP 4 and SURMOUNT-4 withdrawal arms actually showed. The habits are what carried it for a while. When they…
interval stretching vs dose reduction — is either better. I am not trying to be the "source?" guy. I would just like a source. Wrote down where I was before changing…
The title is the argument: appetite came back over five weeks, here is the timeline. Here is the rest of it. Nothing on this board is a taper schedule, and no member…
restarting is not failing and we should say that louder. I have gone back and forth on this for months. Wrote down where I was before changing anything. That single…
Slightly embarrassed to be asking this, but: how long were you on before you tapered. Interval stretching lowers the trough concentration while keeping the dose; dose…
Check-in as promised in the title: anyone else notice regain kicking in around week 20. There is very little published guidance on stopping specifically, which is…
Check-in as promised in the title: 56 weeks on 2.4mg, full numbers, ask me anything boring. The relevant figures are 56 weeks and 2.4mg, and they come from the same log…
Asking properly rather than in a comment on somebody else’s thread: how much of what we believe about interval stretching actually comes from tapering threads. A…
tried discontinuation for 13 weeks. here is what happened. Not a hot take, just something I have not seen said plainly here. The numbers the title promised, since a…
Explainer, as requested in the last thread: interval stretching is not what most of this community thinks it is. Regained most of it over a year and spent that year…
the appetite return question that gets asked weekly, answered properly. It is the sort of thing everyone half-believes and nobody writes down. Stopped for cost reasons.…
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Reference standards69 weeks, 24kg, and appetite return was the hard part. Same spreadsheet I have been keeping since the start, nothing retrofitted. Numbers, in the order they matter: 69…
how much of what we believe about regain actually comes from discontinuation threads. Searched first, found three threads that contradict each other, hence the post.…
The title is the argument: we are measuring appetite return at the wrong time and calling it noise. Here is the rest of it. Nothing on this board is a taper schedule,…
can we stop arguing about regain until somebody posts a number. I would rather ask a basic question now than get this wrong quietly for two months. Stopped abruptly…
9 weeks on 7.5mg, full numbers, ask me anything boring. Same spreadsheet I have been keeping since the start, nothing retrofitted. To save the first four comments: 9…
week 34 check-in — 9kg down, reflux manageable, one thing confusing me. Same spreadsheet I have been keeping since the start, nothing retrofitted. Pulling the figures…
stalled for 11 weeks at 15mg and I refuse to panic this time. It is the sort of thing everyone half-believes and nobody writes down. 11 weeks and 15mg — those are the…
The title is the argument: regain — my 2-week log, condensed into one table. Here is the rest of it. Withdrawal studies across this class consistently show substantial…
Update, and the title has the headline: is it normal to get sulphur burps at week 47. Stopped for cost reasons. Appetite came back at about week 17, well before the…
Asking properly rather than in a comment on somebody else’s thread: can we stop arguing about interval stretching until somebody posts a number. Regained most of it…