[Discussion] we are measuring moderation at the wrong time and calling it noise
Thinking out loud about this: we are measuring moderation at the wrong time and calling it noise.
Funding and links, in full, because the question deserves a straight answer.
Sponsor units are labelled as sponsored. Each vendor source page carries one outbound link to that supplier’s own storefront, marked nofollow and sponsored, so you can read their account of themselves against the record on the page. Nothing is received for those links, no supplier pays for a directory position, and no rating is for sale.
No referral or affiliate links are permitted anywhere on the site, from anybody, including in the pricing threads where the temptation is highest. That rule is the reason those threads are worth reading, and it is enforced without exception. The full version of all of this is on the about page and it is deliberately boring.
The ranking functions are published: the hot ordering combines score magnitude with age, and the controversial ordering weights total volume by the balance between up and down votes. Both are reproducible from the numbers on each submission.
Feed position is a function of early votes and time. That structurally favours agreeable early answers over correct late ones, which is why sorting by controversial occasionally is worth the effort.
Sceptical readings welcome. The confident ones are the ones I distrust.
best — the order this archive was captured in
The evidence standard on the vendor boards requires a document, a date or a named service behind any claim about a supplier. It is what makes those threads worth reading years later.
Edited a wiki page for the first time and nothing bad happened, which is apparently the point.
Which rule specifically, and which part of it?
Is this about a policy or about an individual removal?
Moderation of individual cases happens in modmail rather than in threads, because a public discussion of one person’s removal is worse for that person than a private one.
modmail first, always, and the thread second
the wiki is editable by anybody with standing on the site
sort by controversial occasionally, it is worth it
the disclosure is boring because it has to be
sort by controversial occasionally, it is worth it
Adding the practical note — the formula is published and you can reproduce the ordering yourself.
What breaks if we make that change?
What breaks if we make that change?
Disagreeing with this bit: making individual cases public by default is worse for the person being moderated.
Disagreeing with this bit: making individual cases public by default is worse for the person being moderated.
chain_confirm_c is right that the strict evidence rule is the asset, not the friction.
Small fix — archiving happens at a year, not at six months. It is in the published policy.
Submissions older than a year are archived: readable, linkable, and closed to new comments. That keeps a three-year-old thread from being reopened with a reply nobody will see in context.
Read the ranking formula out of scepticism and reproduced the ordering in a spreadsheet. It does what it says.
Yes. Nobody here is paid and the disclosure page says so in tedious detail, which is the correct level of tedious.
Argued against the strict evidence rule for a year. Then read a supplier thread on another site and stopped arguing.
Had a post removed, went to modmail, got a specific explanation and disagreed with it politely. It stayed removed and I understood why.
Had a post removed, went to modmail, got a specific explanation and disagreed with it politely.
Agreed — concrete wording or it is not a proposal.
That is the controversial ordering, not the hot one. Different formula, different behaviour.
Sorted by controversial for a week and found four of the best threads I have read here.
Have you read the published formula, genuinely asking?
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