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c/maintenancephase·submitted 1 months ago by u/sena_balogun

regain: what the trials say vs what this community says

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regain: what the trials say vs what this community says, and I am aware this is a minority view on this board. Body weight varies by a couple of kilos over days in stable people through fluid, glycogen and gut content. A range is not a trend. Appetite returning before the scale moves follows from the mechanism: the…

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u/anders_osei161 points·1 months ago

Interval stretching changes the exposure profile: with a week-long half-life, moving to ten or twelve days lowers trough concentration more than it lowers average exposure. That is why appetite return is often the first thing noticed.

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u/anders_vermeulen91 points·1 months ago

do not chase the last two kilos with a dose increase

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u/ferritin_low62 points·1 months ago

I would not treat a two-kilo range as drift requiring action. That is ordinary weight variation.

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u/ilias_nakamura18 points·1 months ago

Yes — interval stretching and dose reduction are different levers and people use the words interchangeably.

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u/nils_tulloch10 points·1 months ago

Small fix — you have described interval stretching and called it a dose reduction. The exposure profiles differ.

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u/vitamin_d_void9 points·1 months ago

maintenance is a phase, not a finish line

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u/hassan_ostergaard4 points·1 months ago

None of this is a taper plan. What dose holds for you is a question for somebody with your history in front of them.

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u/kaplan_meier_kim71 points·1 months ago

Correction: that trial measured regain after withdrawal, not failure of the drug during treatment. Very different claim.

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u/hedda_ekstrom130 points·1 months ago

Dose reduction and interval extension are different interventions. Halving the dose keeps the rhythm and lowers the level; stretching keeps the level and lowers the frequency, with a lower trough.

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u/gradient_goblin36 points·1 months ago

a few kilos of drift is not a relapse

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology52 points·1 months ago

Withdrawal studies in this class consistently show substantial regain after discontinuation. That is a pharmacological finding about a chronic condition, not a statement about anyone’s discipline.

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u/kasper_cabrera76 points·1 months ago

Has appetite changed, or only the scale?

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