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c/labresults·posted 2 years ago by u/medutest_mel

[Lab] 14th independent test on GGPeps — 98.3% on a claimed 97.5%, and the trend is the interesting part

Lab Well Actually ×4 Long Haul ×2 Cold Box ×2

Numbers in the title, numbers in the post. 14th independent test on GGPeps — 98.3% on a claimed 97.5%, and the trend is the interesting part.

To save the first four comments: 98.3% and 97.5%.

Fourth lot from the same supplier in the log now and the band has been tight the whole way. That consistency is the actual finding.

Split one vial between PeptideMeter and Medutest. The two numbers were within half a point of each other and I stopped worrying about which lab to trust.

Not medical advice, obviously, and nothing here is approved for human use. One person with a spreadsheet.

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u/medutest_melMOD1.3k points·2 years ago

Retitled — the original stated a discrepancy the numbers do not show.

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u/saskia_mwangi527 points·2 years ago

Area percent or net peptide content?

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u/britta_boateng1.2k points·2 years ago

Chain of custody is why member-funded testing is worth more than a supplied certificate: the vial tested is the vial that arrived at a member’s door.

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u/fatima_wojcik844 points·2 years ago

Do you have the trace, or only the summary?

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[deleted]521 points·2 years ago

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u/georgi_chowdhury173 points·2 years ago

split a vial across two services once and you will never argue about ground truth again

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u/janoshik_junkieindependent tester336 points·2 years ago

Right, and a point or two between services is ordinary. It is agreement, and every month somebody posts it as a scandal.

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u/meera_oyelaran233 points·2 years ago

TFC BPC, batch matched the paperwork, Janoshik came back 99.5% against a claimed 99.0%. Paid for it myself, posting it because the log is only worth anything if people do.

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u/mei_cardoso52 points·2 years ago

FGP came back 98.9% on a claimed 98.0%, which is agreement not a discrepancy

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u/yannick_barros306 points·2 years ago

one result is a data point, agreement between two services is evidence

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u/milos_trevino794 points·2 years ago

Not convinced by the comparison. Different services, different gradients, and you are treating one as ground truth.

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u/gustav_cardoso462 points·2 years ago

results without method are gossip with decimals

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u/edit_for_clarity488 points·2 years ago

What a result posted here is actually worth, and how to make yours worth more.

A single figure with no batch identifier is about a vial nobody can locate. Add the batch and it becomes about a lot. Add the claimed figure from the certificate and it becomes a comparison. Add the service and the date and it becomes reproducible. Say that you paid for it yourself and it becomes independent.

Five extra fields, thirty seconds of typing, and the difference between a comment and a row in the log that will still be useful in three years.

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u/diego_szabo246 points·2 years ago·edited

What a result posted here is actually worth, and how to make yours worth more.

edit_for_clarity is right that the band matters more than the peak. Consistency across lots is the finding.

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u/joaquin_trevino119 points·2 years ago·edited

edit_for_clarity is right that the band matters more than the peak.

Disagreeing with this line: that gap is ordinary variance, not a contradiction between the lab and the certificate.

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u/noor_vermeulen328 points·2 years ago

Agreed — the template exists because a result without the batch and the claim is unanchored.

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u/medutest_melOP122 points·2 years ago

First result I ever posted here got asked for the batch number and the claim. Fair, and my posts have been better ever since.

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u/bpc_scepticresearch peptides76 points·2 years ago

What was the claim on the certificate you are comparing against?

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u/saskia_mwangi27 points·2 years ago

inter-lab variance runs a point or two, plan your outrage accordingly

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u/teodor_jansen9 points·2 years ago

net peptide content if the report gives it, and say which you are quoting

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u/fatima_wojcik472 points·2 years ago

If the report gives a mass spectrum as well as UV purity, say so. Identity and relative quantity are separate claims and the log tracks both.

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u/medutest_melOP369 points·2 years ago

a result with no batch number is about a vial nobody can identify

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u/anders_vermeulen194 points·2 years ago

Yes — date of analysis, because a result from two years ago describes a different manufacturing month.

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u/reship_roulette221 points·2 years ago·edited

a result with no batch number is about a vial nobody can identify

This is why the template has a batch field. Without it the result is about a vial nobody can identify.

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