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c/intlshipping·posted 1 year ago by u/farid_jansen

why does nobody talk about lane

Lane Report Well Actually ×3 Slow Clap ×2

Slightly embarrassed to be asking this, but: why does nobody talk about lane.

Posted my first lane report here without the month and got asked for it. Fair, and the table is better for the fussiness.

The regional stock question, and why it is the first thing I ask now.

If a supplier holds the line you want in a warehouse in your own region, your order is a domestic shipment. No international leg, no clearance, a shorter cold exposure and a lead time in days rather than weeks. If they do not, it is an international shipment however it is described at checkout.

So the question is not "how fast do you ship" but "which lines do you hold in regional stock, and is the one I want among them". It is one email, the answer is usually a list, and it changes what to order and when — especially in summer.

Where the time actually goes, which I got wrong for two years.

Total transit is first mile, international leg, customs clearance and last mile. I had been attributing everything to the international leg because that is the part with the exotic-sounding name.

When I finally logged the stages separately, the international leg was the most consistent part of the whole journey. The variance was in clearance and in the domestic delivery at my end — neither of which the supplier controls. That reframed how I read every lane report on this board, and it is why the table separates the stages.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/hedda_adeyemi109 points·1 year ago

A lane is an origin, a destination, a carrier and a season. Change any one and the distribution changes, which is why supplier-level shipping averages are close to meaningless.

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u/farid_jansenOP42 points·1 year ago

Clearance took three days and the carrier took nine. I had been blaming the wrong half for two years.

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u/farid_jansenOP26 points·1 year ago·edited

Origin, destination, carrier and month?

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u/protein_first_pnutrition19 points·1 year ago

Do they publish a reship policy, and did you read it before ordering?

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u/niels_yilmaz99 points·1 year ago

Not convinced by four data points. That is not a lane yet, it is an anecdote with a route attached.

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u/farid_jansen-38 points·1 year ago·edited

That is a packaging observation, not a transit observation. Worth posting, worth separating.

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u/lane_watcherMOD52 points·1 year ago

Merged into the standing thread for that lane so the reports accumulate in one place.

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u/nils_ferreira12 points·1 year ago

The rigid outer with no rattle in it was the thing that told me most about that supplier, before I had tested anything.

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u/ahmed_okafor7 points·1 year ago

The rigid outer with no rattle in it was the thing that told me most about that supplier, before I had tested anything.

Agreed — and the decomposition matters. Most people are blaming the international leg for a last-mile problem.

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u/ferran_laurent3 points·1 year ago

origin, destination, carrier, month — post all four or the report is noise

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u/vomit_free_since5 points·1 year ago

rigid outer packaging is the cheapest quality signal there is

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u/matias_salgado0 points·1 year ago

Packaging is assessable on arrival with no equipment: rigid outer, no movement inside, the cold element sized to the transit rather than to the box.

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u/ireland_drugs_pay1 point·1 year ago

A quoted lead time is a commitment you can evaluate. Measuring quoted against actual across several orders tells you more about an operation than the raw speed does.

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u/honest_syringe_pls1 point·1 year ago

Same lane, four orders, 5 to 7 days, all four within a couple of days of the quote. That consistency is the actual finding.

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u/karim_hartmann1 point·1 year ago

Ordered from the warehouse in Denmark instead of origin and the whole customs question disappeared. 14 days, door to door.

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u/rohan_steiner1 point·1 year ago

Median transit is the useful statistic. The minimum is a story about one shipment and the mean is dragged around by a single hold.

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u/farid_jansenOP1 point·1 year ago

Correction: that was clearance time, not carrier time. The lane table separates them for exactly this reason.

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u/runa_cabrera1 point·1 year ago

ask which lines are actually held in the regional warehouse

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u/marit_sandvik1 point·1 year ago

Push back: comparing a July transit with a February one on the same lane is not a comparison.

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u/cato_girard42 points·1 year ago

two identical orders a week apart is the cheapest experiment available

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u/mariam_cabrera11 points·1 year ago

reship policy in writing before you order

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u/nabila_ogunleye36 points·1 year ago

Agreed. Reporting by lane rather than by supplier is what made the tables here actually predictive.

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u/vikram_mbeki16 points·1 year ago

Yes — median rather than best case. The fastest anybody ever got is not a plan.

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u/naomi_ekstrom9 points·1 year ago

Right, and the last mile is where my variance has always come from, not the international leg.

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u/runa_wikstrom8 points·1 year ago

Same. TFC quoted 4 days on my lane and it landed at 6, which is exactly what you want from a quote.

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u/valeria_karlsen10 points·1 year ago

regional stock changes everything about transit

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u/nils_tulloch25 points·1 year ago

Agreed on rigid packaging. It costs the shipper almost nothing and it predicts a lot about the rest of the operation.

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u/ahmed_okafor9 points·1 year ago

declared value and description are the shipper’s decision, ask what they use

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