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c/intlshipping·posted 1 year ago by u/marit_sandvik

[Meta] the shipping rule is doing its job and people should stop complaining

PSA Clean Column ×1 Well Actually ×3 Slow Clap ×1

Putting this to the board: the shipping rule is doing its job and people should stop complaining.

A quoted lead time is a commitment you can evaluate. Measuring quoted against actual across several orders tells you more about an operation than the raw speed does.

Median transit is the useful statistic. The minimum is a story about one shipment and the mean is dragged around by a single hold.

Regional stock replaces an international lane with a domestic one. That is a structural change to the distribution, not a marginal improvement, and it is why the warehouse question matters more than the carrier question.

If somebody has the same thing measured a different way, post it next to mine and we will see whether they agree.

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u/milan_chukwu1.1k points·1 year ago

Four observations is not a distribution. The lane tables here only became predictive once individual routes had a dozen or more reports behind them.

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u/ines_boateng532 points·1 year ago

Four observations is not a distribution.

Agreed — and the decomposition matters. Most people are blaming the international leg for a last-mile problem.

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u/runa_wikstrom0 points·1 year ago

Agreed — and the decomposition matters.

Disagreeing with this bit: a single slow shipment does not move a lane, it joins the distribution.

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u/ismael_pires942 points·1 year ago

I would not read a single slow shipment as a lane change. Post it and let the median move if it is real.

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u/marit_sandvikOP549 points·1 year ago

I would not read a single slow shipment as a lane change.

This is why the lane table is organised the way it is. The supplier is not the unit.

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u/teodor_szabo175 points·1 year ago

Agreed on rigid packaging. It costs the shipper almost nothing and it predicts a lot about the rest of the operation.

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u/zaid_balogun44 points·1 year ago

Cosigning the seasonality point. February and August on the same lane are different animals.

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u/marit_sandvikOP399 points·1 year ago

Was it shipped from a regional warehouse or from origin?

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u/protein_first_pnutrition635 points·1 year ago

What lead time were you quoted at checkout?

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u/ireland_drugs_pay188 points·1 year ago

reship policy in writing before you order

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u/marta_trevino468 points·1 year ago

rigid outer packaging is the cheapest quality signal there is

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u/micro_bump_mick0 points·1 year ago

Do they publish a reship policy, and did you read it before ordering?

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u/laila_wojcik1 point·1 year ago

ask which lines are actually held in the regional warehouse

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u/transit_varianceMOD306 points·1 year ago

Merged into the standing thread for that lane so the reports accumulate in one place.

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u/enzo_ferrari192 points·1 year ago

Push back: comparing a July transit with a February one on the same lane is not a comparison.

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u/milan_chukwu116 points·1 year ago

Push back: comparing a July transit with a February one on the same lane is not a comparison.

Adding the field everyone forgets — the month. Without it the report is not comparable to anything.

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u/marit_sandvikOP83 points·1 year ago

That is the quoted lead time, not the observed transit. Both belong in the report and they are different columns.

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u/ismael_pires80 points·1 year ago

Correcting myself: 13 days, not the figure I posted upthread. I was counting from the order date rather than dispatch.

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u/dhl_or_bust156 points·1 year ago

Packaging is assessable on arrival with no equipment: rigid outer, no movement inside, the cold element sized to the transit rather than to the box.

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u/ines_boateng57 points·1 year ago

That is a packaging observation, not a transit observation. Worth posting, worth separating.

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u/emil_marchand20 points·1 year ago·edited

That is a packaging observation, not a transit observation.

ines_boateng is right about regional stock. It changes the shape of the distribution, not just the mean.

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u/zaid_balogun5 points·1 year ago

customs clearance time is not carrier time and they get conflated

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u/naomi_ekstrom20 points·1 year ago

summer and winter are different lanes with the same name

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u/amara_haddad7 points·1 year ago

a quoted lead time you can hold them to is worth more than a fast one you cannot

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u/sanne_laurent41 points·1 year ago

Same lane, four orders, 14 to 16 days, all four within a couple of days of the quote. That consistency is the actual finding.

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u/archived_thread_a31 points·1 year ago·edited

a lane with four reports is not yet a lane

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u/ice_pack_auditcold chain14 points·1 year ago

origin, destination, carrier, month — post all four or the report is noise

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u/graph_it_gary11 points·1 year ago·edited

two identical orders a week apart is the cheapest experiment available

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