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c/bpc157·posted 1 year ago by u/isabela_nilsen

why does nobody talk about tendon

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The title is the whole question — why does nobody talk about tendon — but here is why I am asking.

Kept a reconstituted vial too long out of curiosity and learned something about solution stability I would rather have read.

Assumed regulatory status was static and it was not. Checked again this year and the answer had changed where I live.

Asked WWB for the theoretical mass alongside the certificate and they sent it without asking why.

I will update this if the picture changes rather than quietly leaving it up.

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u/enzo_ferrari85 points·1 year ago

The published literature is overwhelmingly preclinical, largely in rodent models. Translating a rodent result into a human expectation is not a small step, and almost every confident claim here takes it silently.

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u/neha_rahimi124 points·1 year ago

Ask for the theoretical mass alongside the measured one. It is a one-line addition to a certificate and it converts a purity claim into an identity claim.

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u/ice_pack_auditcold chain69 points·1 year ago

Regulatory classification differs between jurisdictions and has changed in several of them recently. Any answer to a status question needs a place and a date attached.

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u/endotoxin_elliemicro55 points·1 year ago

pentadecapeptide, fifteen residues, and the sequence is public

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u/neha_rahimi64 points·1 year ago

Cosigning that the papers are more modest than the summaries of them. That is true across this whole site and especially here.

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u/isabela_nilsenOP25 points·1 year ago

Was there identity confirmation, or only a purity figure?

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u/ismael_chukwu26 points·1 year ago

identity testing matters more here than purity does

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u/ruben_cabrera0 points·1 year ago

The published literature is overwhelmingly preclinical, largely in rodent models.

Adding the standing caveat — research material is not approved for human use, wherever you are.

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u/enzo_ferrari27 points·1 year ago

Correction: that study was in rodents. Worth stating explicitly since the thread has been reading it as clinical.

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u/pavel_kimani8 points·1 year ago

Reconstituted or powder, and how long has it been in solution?

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u/bruno_dumitru31 points·1 year ago

I would not extrapolate a mechanism from a model system to a person in one step, which is what that comment does.

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u/marta_ilunga-16 points·1 year ago

short peptides are cheap, which cuts both ways

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u/hamza_weiss1 point·1 year ago

That claim traces back to a single preclinical paper that says something considerably narrower.

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u/rosa_almeida25 points·1 year ago

preclinical enthusiasm is not clinical evidence

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u/bence_ibarra13 points·1 year ago

Small fix — fifteen residues, not seventeen. The sequence is public and easy to check.

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u/throwaway_918219 points·1 year ago

the tendon claims are the most repeated and the least evidenced

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u/sequence_checkerMOD69 points·1 year ago

Standing reminder in every thread here: research material is not approved for human use.

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u/mod_cold_roommod · c/coldchain47 points·1 year ago·edited

Bought small, tested identity first, and only then thought about anything else. That order felt right.

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u/marta_trevino61 points·1 year ago

research-use-only means not approved for human use, and here that covers everything

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u/asks_dumb_questions37 points·1 year ago

This. Mass spectrometry for identity, not just an area percent, because a pure something-else is still something else.

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u/elodie_yilmaz20 points·1 year ago

It is a fifteen-residue peptide with a published sequence, which makes synthesis straightforward and makes identity verification the meaningful test rather than an optional extra.

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u/ms_fragmenter16 points·1 year ago

Short peptides in solution are subject to hydrolysis and, depending on sequence, oxidation. Storage state and time in solution are practical variables that this board almost never discusses.

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u/signe_grimaldi11 points·1 year ago

It is a fifteen-residue peptide with a published sequence, which makes synthesis straightforward and makes identity verification the meaningful test r

Disagreeing with this line: that paper is in a rodent model and it is being quoted as a human result.

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u/piotr_grimaldi5 points·1 year ago

Disagreeing with this line: that paper is in a rodent model and it is being quoted as a human result.

Agreed — and the preclinical to clinical gap is where nearly all the overclaiming happens.

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u/ice_pack_auditcold chain9 points·1 year ago

a fifteen-residue peptide is easy to make and easy to make badly

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u/hplc_hobbyistruns their own column5 points·1 year ago

What jurisdiction are you asking about? The answer has changed in several.

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