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c/bpc157·posted 8 months ago by u/bence_ibarra

[Lab] 18th independent test on SWB — 99.1% on a claimed 99.0%, and the trend is the interesting part

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The claim in the title is exactly the claim I am making: 18th independent test on SWB — 99.1% on a claimed 99.0%, and the trend is the interesting part. Nothing implied beyond it.

Pulling the figures out of the title: 99.1% and 99.0%. All of it is written down as it happened rather than reconstructed.

Short peptides in solution are subject to hydrolysis and, depending on sequence, oxidation. Storage state and time in solution are practical variables that this board almost never discusses.

The published literature is overwhelmingly preclinical, largely in rodent models. Translating a rodent result into a human expectation is not a small step, and almost every confident claim here takes it silently.

Happy to answer the boring questions. Those are usually the ones worth asking.

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u/tb500_tangent542 points·8 months ago

Ask for the theoretical mass alongside the measured one. It is a one-line addition to a certificate and it converts a purity claim into an identity claim.

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u/viktor_laurent370 points·8 months ago

Cosigning that the papers are more modest than the summaries of them. That is true across this whole site and especially here.

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u/bence_ibarraOP190 points·8 months ago

Has anyone posted an independent result on that batch?

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u/enzo_fonseca362 points·8 months ago

Bought small, tested identity first, and only then thought about anything else. That order felt right.

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u/osman_brandt203 points·8 months ago

It is a fifteen-residue peptide with a published sequence, which makes synthesis straightforward and makes identity verification the meaningful test rather than an optional extra.

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u/hplc_hobbyistruns their own column131 points·8 months ago

no clinical trial has established what these threads assert

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u/ismael_chukwu239 points·8 months ago

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use. In this board that is not a formality — it is the reason the clinical evidence base is as thin as it is.

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u/bence_ibarraOP99 points·8 months ago

Every claim I could trace in this board went back to about four papers. That was a sobering afternoon.

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u/ruben_cabrera109 points·8 months ago

Purity by area percent tells you the sample is homogeneous. Mass spectrometry tells you what the homogeneous thing is. For a short peptide, the second question is the one worth paying for.

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u/source_or_silence82 points·8 months ago

Went and read the primary rodent papers after arguing about a summary for a week. They are much narrower than the threads suggest.

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u/neha_rahimi-11 points·8 months ago

What method produced that purity number?

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u/nadia_nascimento102 points·8 months ago·edited

I would not extrapolate a mechanism from a model system to a person in one step, which is what that comment does.

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u/enzo_ferrari76 points·8 months ago

Regulatory classification differs between jurisdictions and has changed in several of them recently. Any answer to a status question needs a place and a date attached.

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u/rasmus_kimani23 points·8 months ago

Yes. Nothing here is approved for human use and that should be the first line of every thread, not the last.

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u/aurel_boateng11 points·8 months ago

identity, quantity, stability — three separate questions

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u/ayesha_erdogan9 points·8 months ago

pentadecapeptide, fifteen residues, and the sequence is public

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u/teodor_szabo5 points·8 months ago

Kept a reconstituted vial too long out of curiosity and learned something about solution stability I would rather have read.

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u/neha_rahimi5 points·8 months ago

most of the claims here trace to the same handful of rodent papers

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u/cormac_roos53 points·8 months ago

ask for the mass spectrum, not just the purity number

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u/pavel_kravchenko26 points·8 months ago

ask for the mass spectrum, not just the purity number

cormac_roos is right that a pure something-else is still something else.

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u/bence_ibarraOP15 points·8 months ago

Small fix — fifteen residues, not seventeen. The sequence is public and easy to check.

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