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c/bloodwork·posted 1 year ago by u/yara_antonsen

help me understand ALT, I have read the wiki twice

Question The Quiet One ×6

Genuine question, and the title is the question: help me understand ALT, I have read the wiki twice.

Panicked about a single result, posted here, got told to repeat it, repeated it, and it was fine.

Tracked triglycerides against the weight trend for a year. The correlation was much weaker than I expected and that was worth knowing.

ApoB counts atherogenic particles rather than the cholesterol they carry, which is why it can diverge from LDL-C and why it is the addition most worth making.

If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something. Alone it is an anecdote.

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u/santiago_rasmussen128 points·1 year ago

Nobody here can interpret your panel and this comment is not doing so. What a board can usefully do is help you ask better questions of somebody who can.

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u/amara_dziedzic43 points·1 year ago

Took a baseline the week before starting purely because this board told me to. Best five minutes I have spent on this.

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u/yara_antonsenOP-38 points·1 year ago

Have you taken this to whoever ordered it?

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u/yara_antonsenOP150 points·1 year ago·edited

Nobody here can interpret your panel and this comment is not doing so.

santiago_rasmussen is right that a reference interval is not a target. It is a description of a population.

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u/yara_antonsenOP55 points·1 year ago·edited

What did the repeat show?

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u/emeka_chowdhury0 points·1 year ago

Fasting or not, and what time of day?

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u/liver_enzyme_liz0 points·1 year ago

Fasting or not, and what time of day?

Disagreeing with this bit: that change is confounded by the weight loss itself and cannot be attributed.

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u/gentle_correctionMOD61 points·1 year ago

Standing reminder: nobody here interprets your results, and posts asking us to get a pointer to somebody who can.

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u/ahmed_fonseca43 points·1 year ago

Time of day, fasting state, hydration and recent exercise all move common markers. Standardising the draw conditions is free and it removes most of the apparent variability.

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u/anya_rautio32 points·1 year ago·edited

a single ApoB outside range is a reason to repeat, not to panic

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u/skip_week_sceptic18 points·1 year ago

a single ApoB outside range is a reason to repeat, not to panic

Agreed — and standardising the draw conditions is the cheapest improvement available.

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u/elise_grimaldi7 points·1 year ago

This. Reference ranges are population intervals, not targets, and conflating them causes a lot of unnecessary alarm here.

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u/mateusz_achebe2 points·1 year ago

ApoB is the one worth adding if you only add one

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u/anders_vermeulen10 points·1 year ago

Small fix — a reference interval is not a treatment target, and the post above uses them interchangeably.

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u/cormac_roos19 points·1 year ago

That comparison crosses two labs with different assays. The difference you are describing may be the method.

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u/mikkel_ogunleye12 points·1 year ago

Same lab as the previous draw?

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u/ferran_halonen5 points·1 year ago

Cosigning on baseline. The panel I regret most is the one I did not take before starting.

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u/thermal_mass_tom13 points·1 year ago

lab reference ranges are not treatment targets

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u/nabila_bakken3 points·1 year ago

Repeat testing before acting is standard practice for a reason: regression to the mean does a lot of work on single outlying values.

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u/neha_rahimi1 point·1 year ago

Reference intervals are typically the central 95% of a reference population. By construction one person in twenty falls outside one on any given test without anything being wrong.

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u/karl_fischer_kev0 points·1 year ago

Yes. Repeat before you react. Almost every alarming single value I have posted here regressed on the repeat.

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u/customs_seizure_sid2 points·1 year ago

Disagree with reading anything into that. One value, one morning, and you changed two other things in the same window.

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u/vito_chowdhury2 points·1 year ago

I would not draw a line through two points, especially when the second was taken at a different time of day.

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u/whois_wanda1 point·1 year ago

baseline before you start is worth more than any later panel

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