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c/retatrutide·submitted 1 year ago by u/renzo_yildiz

5 months in and dose escalation is still the thing I get wrong

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5 months in and dose escalation is still the thing I get wrong. Same spreadsheet I have been keeping since the start, nothing retrofitted. Numbers, in the order they matter: 5 months. Went up slowly, deliberately, because everything on this board says the escalation is where trouble lives. Uneventful so far and I am…

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u/reta_and_regretMOD49 points·1 year ago

Left up. It reads the phase 2 paper carefully and it is honest about the intervals.

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u/marit_laurent16 points·1 year ago

Correction: TRIUMPH is the phase 3 programme. The number you are quoting is from the phase 2 readout, which is a different trial.

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u/soren_nkemelu5 points·1 year ago

Push back: quoting the phase 2 headline as an expected outcome is not a fair reading of a small trial with wide intervals.

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u/kofi_balogun19 points·1 year ago

Correction: TRIUMPH is the phase 3 programme.

This is the sentence the rest of the board should read first. Phase 2 is not a label.

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u/viktor_laurent-31 points·1 year ago

Which phase 2 arm are you quoting, and at what week?

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u/nadia_trevino20 points·1 year ago

Agreed on the heart-rate reports. They are consistent enough across the threads to be worth noting, not enough to be a finding.

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u/renzo_yildizOP11 points·1 year ago

That is body weight change, not fat mass. The trials report the first and people quote it as the second.

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u/nikhil_lindqvist4 points·1 year ago

heart rate is the thing people report watching

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u/source_or_silence3 points·1 year ago

the phase 2 numbers were striking and they were also 48 weeks in a small population

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u/sena_teixeira14 points·1 year ago

The thing that surprised me was how much of the discussion here is inference rather than measurement.

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