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c/retatrutide·submitted 1 year ago by u/lurker_for_years

stalled for 11 weeks at 12.5mg and I refuse to panic this time

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stalled for 11 weeks at 12.5mg and I refuse to panic this time, and I am aware this is a minority view on this board. The relevant figures are 11 weeks and 12.5mg, and they come from the same log I have kept the whole time. Phase 2 estimates effect and finds a dose range. Phase 3 estimates it precisely in a bigger…

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u/yannick_salinas54 points·1 year ago

The injection-site soreness profile felt different rather than worse. Hard to describe and impossible to quantify, so take it as an impression.

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u/lurker_for_years27 points·1 year ago

phase 2 data only, and people quote it like it is a label

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u/soren_nkemelu8 points·1 year ago

Disagree. "More receptors means more effect" is not how any of this works and the trial data does not support the linear story.

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u/priya_weiss20 points·1 year ago

The phase 2 readout ran to 48 weeks in a few hundred participants with a slow escalation. Both the size and the duration matter when people quote the headline number.

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u/rui_only_ro14 points·1 year ago

comparing reta phase 2 to sema phase 3 is comparing different things

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u/lurker_for_yearsOP8 points·1 year ago

Small fix — three receptors, not two. GLP-1, GIP and glucagon, and the third one is the reason this compound gets its own board.

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u/aa_analysis_andy5 points·1 year ago

Went up slowly, deliberately, because everything on this board says the escalation is where trouble lives. Uneventful so far and I am not going to pretend that is a finding.

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u/reta_and_regret4 points·1 year ago

Correction: TRIUMPH is the phase 3 programme. The number you are quoting is from the phase 2 readout, which is a different trial.

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