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c/retatrutide·submitted 1 year ago by u/rekha_vestergaard

TRIUMPH — 16 things I got wrong before I got it right

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Posting this as a discussion rather than a claim: TRIUMPH — 16 things I got wrong before I got it right. What the glucagon arm is doing, as best anyone can say from public data. GLP-1 and GIP agonism cover appetite and insulin secretion in ways that are now reasonably well characterised. Glucagon receptor agonism is…

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology43 points·1 year ago

The standing caveat, written out properly because it keeps getting compressed into a footnote.

Nothing containing this compound is approved by any regulator. Research-use-only material is not approved for human use. That is not a legal formality on this board — it is why there is so little independent data, why the escalation schedules people post are invented, and why nobody here can answer a dosing question.

What this board can usefully do is read the published trials carefully, log independent purity results, and be honest about how thin the evidence base is. Everything else belongs somewhere with a clinician in it.

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u/rekha_vestergaardOP23 points·1 year ago·edited

Watched heart rate on a wearable across twelve weeks because the threads said to. It moved a little and I have no idea whether that means anything.

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u/cagrilintide_enthusiast11 points·1 year ago

the glucagon component is why the metabolic story reads differently

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u/nikhil_lindqvist10 points·1 year ago

Watched heart rate on a wearable across twelve weeks because the threads said to.

This is the sentence the rest of the board should read first. Phase 2 is not a label.

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u/anya_moreau3 points·1 year ago

Cosigning the escalation point. Almost every difficult report on this board is from somebody who went up quickly.

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u/rekha_vestergaardOP0 points·1 year ago

Is that the 48-week figure or an earlier readout?

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u/rekha_vestergaardOP1 point·1 year ago

Are you comparing against phase 3 numbers for something else? They are not comparable.

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