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c/meta·posted 1 year ago by u/hamza_weiss

three years of wiki threads, summarised so you do not have to read them

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three years of wiki threads, summarised so you do not have to read them. I have gone back and forth on this for months.

Vendor source pages carry an outbound link to the supplier’s own storefront, marked nofollow and sponsored, disclosed on the page and again on the funding page. Nothing is received for it.

The ranking functions are published: the hot ordering combines score magnitude with age, and the controversial ordering weights total volume by the balance between up and down votes. Both are reproducible from the numbers on each submission.

Feed position is a function of early votes and time. That structurally favours agreeable early answers over correct late ones, which is why sorting by controversial occasionally is worth the effort.

I will update this if the picture changes rather than quietly leaving it up.

168 up / 5 down97% upvoted18 commentsid 8apss05 Feb 2025

18 comments

17 in this archive, depth 4

best — the order this archive was captured in

u/placebo_arm_pam31 points·1 year ago

A rule-change proposal needs replacement wording because that is what can be evaluated. Without it there is nothing to compare against the current text.

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u/farid_jansen10 points·1 year ago

ranked feeds mean the top comment is not the best answer

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u/draw_up_dizzy15 points·1 year ago

vendor source pages link storefronts and the link is marked

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u/hamza_weissOP7 points·1 year ago

Argued against the strict evidence rule for a year. Then read a supplier thread on another site and stopped arguing.

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u/saskia_mwangi5 points·1 year ago

What would the new rule do to the vendor evidence standard?

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u/sterile_field_steph2 points·1 year ago

modmail first, always, and the thread second

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u/hamza_weissOP11 points·1 year ago

no referral links, no affiliate links, not once

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u/hub_opssite staff3 points·1 year ago

Have you taken this to modmail first?

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u/hamza_weissOP2 points·1 year ago·edited

Checked the sponsor disclosure because I assumed it would be vague. It was extremely specific and slightly boring.

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u/katrin_diallo13 points·1 year ago·edited

Moderation of individual cases happens in modmail rather than in threads, because a public discussion of one person’s removal is worse for that person than a private one.

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u/halima_boateng8 points·1 year ago

Submissions older than a year are archived: readable, linkable, and closed to new comments. That keeps a three-year-old thread from being reopened with a reply nobody will see in context.

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u/enzo_petrescu4 points·1 year ago

That is the controversial ordering, not the hot one. Different formula, different behaviour.

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u/hedda_aguirre2 points·1 year ago

What breaks if we make that change?

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u/tomas_lundgren6 points·1 year ago

Submissions older than a year are archived: readable, linkable, and closed to new comments.

This is the principle the whole site is built on. Publish it or do not enforce it.

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u/lucia_balogun4 points·1 year ago

sponsor disclosure is on the about page in full

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