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c/meta·posted 1 year ago by u/solene_ilunga

moderation — 21 things I got wrong before I got it right

Discussion Long Haul ×2 Well Actually ×1

Thinking out loud about this: moderation — 21 things I got wrong before I got it right.

Sorted by controversial for a week and found four of the best threads I have read here.

Edited a wiki page for the first time and nothing bad happened, which is apparently the point.

Complained about a rule without proposing anything and was politely pointed at this page. Fair.

Sceptical readings welcome. The confident ones are the ones I distrust.

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23 in this archive, depth 5

best — the order this archive was captured in

u/dizzy_on_standing114 points·1 year ago

This. Modmail first is not bureaucracy; it stops individual cases turning into a public pile-on.

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[deleted]82 points·1 year ago

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u/ines_boateng66 points·1 year ago

Careful — that would make individual moderation cases public by default, which is worse for the person complaining.

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u/farid_jansen110 points·1 year ago

A rule-change proposal needs replacement wording because that is what can be evaluated. Without it there is nothing to compare against the current text.

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u/camila_sandvik130 points·1 year ago

modmail first, always, and the thread second

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u/hub_opsMOD74 points·1 year ago

Left up and flaired Proposal — it has replacement wording, which is what this board asks for.

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u/hassan_castellanos51 points·1 year ago

That is a complaint rather than a proposal. Bring wording and it can actually be discussed.

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u/kenji_demir16 points·1 year ago

What breaks if we make that change?

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u/solene_ilunga9 points·1 year ago

sort by controversial occasionally, it is worth it

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u/noor_cardoso13 points·1 year ago

the ranking formula is published, go and read it

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u/ewan_marchand15 points·1 year ago

Same view — strict evidence rules make this board slower and make the archive worth reading in three years.

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u/emil_marchand19 points·1 year ago

Submissions older than a year are archived: readable, linkable, and closed to new comments. That keeps a three-year-old thread from being reopened with a reply nobody will see in context.

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u/solene_ilungaOP21 points·1 year ago

What would the new rule do to the vendor evidence standard?

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u/dose_creep_dan21 points·1 year ago·edited

Push back: the ranking is not hiding anything. The formula is published and you can reproduce the ordering.

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u/yusuf_achebe-10 points·1 year ago

nobody here is paid, including the moderators

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u/vikram_mbeki30 points·1 year ago

I would not archive earlier. The old threads are the most-searched thing on the site.

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u/solene_ilungaOP22 points·1 year ago

I would not archive earlier.

Disagreeing with this bit: making individual cases public by default is worse for the person being moderated.

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u/ewan_marchand47 points·1 year ago

Moderation of individual cases happens in modmail rather than in threads, because a public discussion of one person’s removal is worse for that person than a private one.

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u/stablecoin_steve23 points·1 year ago

The ranking functions are published: the hot ordering combines score magnitude with age, and the controversial ordering weights total volume by the balance between up and down votes. Both are reproducible from the numbers on each submission.

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u/arto_fonseca33 points·1 year ago

Vendor source pages carry an outbound link to the supplier’s own storefront, marked nofollow and sponsored, disclosed on the page and again on the funding page. Nothing is received for it.

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u/ewan_marchand11 points·1 year ago

Not convinced by the proposal as worded. It would remove the specific thing that makes the vendor board usable.

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u/solene_ilungaOP5 points·1 year ago

Have you taken this to modmail first?

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