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c/maintenancephase·posted 7 months ago by u/food_noise_gone

[Discussion] we are measuring long term at the wrong time and calling it noise

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we are measuring long term at the wrong time and calling it noise, and I am aware this is a minority view on this board.

Chased the last three kilos with a dose increase and got a fortnight of sulphur burps and no change in the number.

Wrote down what maintenance would look like at about week 93, before I needed it. Having decided in advance made the transition boring.

The habits from the losing phase are what carry it now. That is not inspirational, it is just what happened.

Please do not ask me what dose you should be on. I genuinely do not know and neither does anyone else here.

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u/sena_balogun281 points·7 months ago

Appetite returning before the scale moves follows from the mechanism: the appetite effect is the proximal one and weight is the lagging integrated outcome.

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u/graph_it_gary83 points·7 months ago

Drifted up 10kg over a winter and panicked. It came back off without any change, which is apparently just what weight does.

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u/still_here_2026MOD213 points·7 months ago

Removed the taper schedule aimed at another member. Describe your own; do not write theirs.

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u/food_noise_goneOPmaintenance126 points·7 months ago

Removed the taper schedule aimed at another member.

This reframing is the most useful thing on the board for anyone approaching this phase.

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u/food_noise_goneOPmaintenance78 points·7 months ago·edited

That is a range, not a trend. Two weigh-ins 11 days apart cannot distinguish them.

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u/kofi_ferreira119 points·7 months ago

appetite returns before the scale acknowledges anything

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[removed]86 points·7 months ago

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u/hassan_ostergaard70 points·7 months ago

Is the goal weight still the one you picked at the start?

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u/food_noise_goneOPmaintenance50 points·7 months ago

Correction: that trial measured regain after withdrawal, not failure of the drug during treatment. Very different claim.

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u/copay_card_cc20 points·7 months ago

stretching the interval is not the same as reducing the dose

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u/elise_ramos10 points·7 months ago

stretching the interval is not the same as reducing the dose

copay_card_cc is right that stretching and reducing are different levers. Worth separating in every one of these threads.

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u/viktor_erdogan3 points·7 months ago

copay_card_cc is right that stretching and reducing are different levers.

Disagreeing with this bit: a two-kilo range is not drift and treating it as a problem creates one.

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u/erez_baptista53 points·7 months ago

plan the maintenance phase before you need it

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u/paper_trail_paulavetting116 points·7 months ago

None of this is a taper plan. What dose holds for you is a question for somebody with your history in front of them.

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u/noor_vermeulen69 points·7 months ago·edited

None of this is a taper plan.

Agreed — and appetite is the leading indicator. The scale is the lagging one.

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u/fridge_door_no31 points·7 months ago

Agreed — and appetite is the leading indicator.

Adding one thing — decide what maintenance looks like before you arrive at it.

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u/piotr_grimaldi20 points·7 months ago

Small fix — you have described interval stretching and called it a dose reduction. The exposure profiles differ.

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u/mass_spec_maggieMS84 points·7 months ago

regain after stopping is the expected outcome, not a personal failure

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u/cesar_oyelaran0 points·7 months ago

Stretched from seven to ten days and then to twelve over about four months. Appetite told me where the limit was before the scale did.

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u/blunt_coldbox_notes23 points·7 months ago

This. The withdrawal data is not ambiguous and framing regain as a personal failure is both wrong and cruel.

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