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the maintenance thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down

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the maintenance thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down. I have gone back and forth on this for months.

What maintenance actually looks like, from the people on this board who have been in it longest.

You find a dose or an interval that holds the weight with side effects you barely notice, and then you stop optimising. Weigh monthly rather than daily. Expect a couple of kilos of range and do not act on it. Keep the habits that did the work in the losing phase, because they are the part that has to outlive the dose.

The most common mistake described here is treating arrival as a plateau and pushing the dose to chase a number chosen at week one by a person who did not yet know what maintenance felt like.

Drifted up 6kg over a winter and panicked. It came back off without any change, which is apparently just what weight does.

Weigh monthly now. Best change I made in the whole run and it cost nothing.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/throwaway_9182328 points·1 year ago

Is the goal weight still the one you picked at the start?

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u/noor_vermeulen266 points·1 year ago

Dose reduction and interval extension are different interventions. Halving the dose keeps the rhythm and lowers the level; stretching keeps the level and lowers the frequency, with a lower trough.

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u/ewan_marchand72 points·1 year ago

do not chase the last two kilos with a dose increase

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u/dario_petrescu27 points·1 year ago

Careful — a dose reduction plan is a conversation with someone who knows your history, not a board consensus.

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u/maintenance_mode_maxmaintenance18 points·1 year ago

the habits are the part that has to outlive the dose

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u/omar_eriksen205 points·1 year ago

I would not treat a two-kilo range as drift requiring action. That is ordinary weight variation.

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u/santiago_ndiaye-7 points·1 year ago

Stretching the interval, reducing the dose, or both?

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u/nikhil_lindqvist0 points·1 year ago

Stretching the interval, reducing the dose, or both?

Agreed — and appetite is the leading indicator. The scale is the lagging one.

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u/cold_chromatogram_only1 point·1 year ago

Stretched from seven to ten days and then to twelve over about four months. Appetite told me where the limit was before the scale did.

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u/aleksi_eriksen95 points·1 year ago

That reads like a taper schedule and this board cannot hand those out.

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u/food_noise_goneMOD57 points·1 year ago

Left up. It is a maintenance report with a duration attached and those are rarer than they should be.

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u/santiago_ndiaye14 points·1 year ago

maintenance is a phase, not a finish line

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u/constipation_clubside effects6 points·1 year ago

the lowest effective dose is a real target and nobody talks about it

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u/marisol_frisk6 points·1 year ago

stretching the interval is not the same as reducing the dose

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u/brigade_detector2 points·1 year ago

plan the maintenance phase before you need it

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u/ewan_marchand3 points·1 year ago

Yes — interval stretching and dose reduction are different levers and people use the words interchangeably.

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u/paloma_stanescu2 points·1 year ago

a few kilos of drift is not a relapse

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u/crosspost_bot_no44 points·1 year ago

How long have you been at goal?

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u/teodor_duarteOP34 points·1 year ago

monthly weigh-ins are enough at this stage

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u/kasper_cabrera19 points·1 year ago

Cosigning on planning it in advance. Deciding what maintenance looks like while still losing is much easier than deciding it in a panic.

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u/anders_vermeulen20 points·1 year ago

monthly weigh-ins are enough at this stage

Adding one thing — decide what maintenance looks like before you arrive at it.

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u/old_account_202315 points·1 year ago

Interval stretching changes the exposure profile: with a week-long half-life, moving to ten or twelve days lowers trough concentration more than it lowers average exposure. That is why appetite return is often the first thing noticed.

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u/nils_tulloch21 points·1 year ago

Yes. The habits have to outlive the dose or the maintenance phase is just a countdown.

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u/teodor_duarteOP34 points·1 year ago

Been at maintenance for 20 months on 0.25mg. Nothing happens. That is the whole report and it took me a while to accept it as success.

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u/sena_balogun0 points·1 year ago

Been at maintenance for 20 months on 0.25mg.

Disagreeing with this bit: a two-kilo range is not drift and treating it as a problem creates one.

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u/anya_rautio35 points·1 year ago

Push back: that is not a plateau, that is maintenance. You have arrived and you are describing it as a failure.

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u/fridge_door_no22 points·1 year ago

What is the plan if the drift continues for another month?

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u/taper_off_tabitha23 points·1 year ago

Agreed. Lowest effective dose is the actual maintenance question and it gets almost no airtime next to the escalation threads.

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u/fatima_asante12 points·1 year ago·edited

Agreed.

This reframing is the most useful thing on the board for anyone approaching this phase.

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