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c/intlshipping·posted 2 years ago by u/nikhil_asante

[Question] carrier — what am I missing here

Question The Quiet One ×9 Slow Clap ×2 Sourced ×1

Slightly embarrassed to be asking this, but: carrier — what am I missing here.

Ordered from the warehouse in New Zealand instead of origin and the whole customs question disappeared. 8 days, door to door.

Packaging is assessable on arrival with no equipment: rigid outer, no movement inside, the cold element sized to the transit rather than to the box.

A quoted lead time is a commitment you can evaluate. Measuring quoted against actual across several orders tells you more about an operation than the raw speed does.

Corrections welcome, especially the pedantic ones. Pedantry is how this board earns its reputation.

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u/yannick_petrov963 points·2 years ago

Four observations is not a distribution. The lane tables here only became predictive once individual routes had a dozen or more reports behind them.

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u/fatima_asante-35 points·2 years ago·edited

Careful — the supplier does not control the last mile and most of your variance is in it.

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u/nikhil_asanteOP1 point·2 years ago

Was it shipped from a regional warehouse or from origin?

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u/annika_fonseca456 points·2 years ago

Posted my first lane report here without the month and got asked for it. Fair, and the table is better for the fussiness.

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u/nikhil_teixeira110 points·2 years ago

rigid outer packaging is the cheapest quality signal there is

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u/vikram_mbeki122 points·2 years ago

Agreed on rigid packaging. It costs the shipper almost nothing and it predicts a lot about the rest of the operation.

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[removed]87 points·2 years ago

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u/renzo_asante314 points·2 years ago

What lead time were you quoted at checkout?

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u/ice_pack_auditcold chain351 points·2 years ago·edited

Not convinced by four data points. That is not a lane yet, it is an anecdote with a route attached.

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u/zaid_balogun279 points·2 years ago

Regional stock replaces an international lane with a domestic one. That is a structural change to the distribution, not a marginal improvement, and it is why the warehouse question matters more than the carrier question.

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u/milan_mensah113 points·2 years ago

Cosigning the seasonality point. February and August on the same lane are different animals.

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u/neha_mwangi134 points·2 years ago

declared value and description are the shipper’s decision, ask what they use

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u/nabila_ogunleye93 points·2 years ago

Clearance took three days and the carrier took nine. I had been blaming the wrong half for two years.

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u/nikhil_asante150 points·2 years ago·edited

Median transit is the useful statistic. The minimum is a story about one shipment and the mean is dragged around by a single hold.

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u/wholesome_lurker118 points·2 years ago

A lane is an origin, a destination, a carrier and a season. Change any one and the distribution changes, which is why supplier-level shipping averages are close to meaningless.

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u/farid_jansen39 points·2 years ago

6 days on a lane quoted at 12 is the shape you want

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u/nikhil_asanteOP14 points·2 years ago

Where did the time actually go — international leg, clearance, or last mile?

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u/valeria_karlsen8 points·2 years ago

Yes — regional stock is the single biggest variable and it barely gets mentioned outside this board.

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u/quiet_reader_992 points·2 years ago

a quoted lead time you can hold them to is worth more than a fast one you cannot

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u/farid_jansen1 point·2 years ago

Same. Homopeptide quoted 19 days on my lane and it landed at 5, which is exactly what you want from a quote.

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u/nikhil_asante22 points·2 years ago

Correcting myself: 4 days, not the figure I posted upthread. I was counting from the order date rather than dispatch.

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u/ahmed_okafor15 points·2 years ago

Disagree. That is a customs hold, not a carrier delay, and lumping them together makes the lane table wrong.

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u/lukas_delgado17 points·2 years ago

summer and winter are different lanes with the same name

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u/nikhil_asanteOP0 points·2 years ago

Same lane in a different season for comparison?

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics0 points·2 years ago

I would not read a single slow shipment as a lane change. Post it and let the median move if it is real.

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u/greta_perrin1 point·2 years ago

Right, and the last mile is where my variance has always come from, not the international leg.

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u/honest_syringe191 point·2 years ago

That is a packaging observation, not a transit observation. Worth posting, worth separating.

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u/emil_agyeman1 point·2 years ago

This. A quoted lead time that holds is worth more than a fast one that does not.

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u/runa_wikstrom1 point·2 years ago·edited

That is a packaging observation, not a transit observation.

Adding the field everyone forgets — the month. Without it the report is not comparable to anything.

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u/ismael_varga1 point·2 years ago

Right, and the last mile is where my variance has always come from, not the international leg.

greta_perrin is right about regional stock. It changes the shape of the distribution, not just the mean.

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