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c/intlshipping·posted 1 year ago by u/mod_cold_room

[Vendor] BCH order #17 — Germany, 12 days, no drama, receipts inside

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BCH order #17 — Germany, 12 days, no drama, receipts inside. Multiple orders, one buyer, which makes this a series and not a survey.

12 days — those are the numbers, and they are the ones I am willing to defend.

Posted my first lane report here without the month and got asked for it. Fair, and the table is better for the fussiness.

Why this board reports by lane and not by supplier.

Two members ordering from the same operation, in the same month, can see completely different transit times because they are on different routes with different carriers and different clearance points. Averaging them produces a supplier-level number that predicts nothing for either of them.

A lane — origin, destination, carrier, month — is the smallest thing that behaves consistently enough to be worth measuring. Once a route has a dozen reports behind it the median is genuinely useful, and that is what the tables on the source pages are built from.

If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something. Alone it is an anecdote.

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u/nausea_notesside effects294 points·1 year ago

Packaging is assessable on arrival with no equipment: rigid outer, no movement inside, the cold element sized to the transit rather than to the box.

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u/week_one_wanda218 points·1 year ago

the median is more useful than the fastest anybody ever got

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u/lane_map_larrylogistics49 points·1 year ago

A quoted lead time is a commitment you can evaluate. Measuring quoted against actual across several orders tells you more about an operation than the raw speed does.

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u/mod_cold_roomOPmod · c/coldchain31 points·1 year ago

A quoted lead time is a commitment you can evaluate.

This is why the lane table is organised the way it is. The supplier is not the unit.

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics132 points·1 year ago

Median transit is the useful statistic. The minimum is a story about one shipment and the mean is dragged around by a single hold.

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u/mod_cold_roomOPmod · c/coldchain192 points·1 year ago

Clearance took three days and the carrier took nine. I had been blaming the wrong half for two years.

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u/mod_cold_roomOPmod · c/coldchain104 points·1 year ago

Asked QST which lines they hold regionally before ordering and got a straight list back. Changed what I ordered and when.

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u/micro_bump_mick64 points·1 year ago

Do they publish a reship policy, and did you read it before ordering?

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u/lukas_delgado71 points·1 year ago

Was it shipped from a regional warehouse or from origin?

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u/emil_marchand18 points·1 year ago

Not convinced by four data points. That is not a lane yet, it is an anecdote with a route attached.

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u/transit_varianceMOD71 points·1 year ago

Merged into the standing thread for that lane so the reports accumulate in one place.

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u/ice_pack_auditcold chain-21 points·1 year ago

Regional stock replaces an international lane with a domestic one. That is a structural change to the distribution, not a marginal improvement, and it is why the warehouse question matters more than the carrier question.

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u/quiet_reader_9933 points·1 year ago

What lead time were you quoted at checkout?

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u/endotoxin_elliemicro20 points·1 year ago

Split one order across two months on purpose to compare summer and winter. Four days apart, same carrier, same route.

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u/nora_ramos31 points·1 year ago

Kept a spreadsheet of quoted versus actual across a year. The quote held; the variance was all in the last mile.

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u/emil_agyeman45 points·1 year ago

reship policy in writing before you order

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u/piotr_grimaldi15 points·1 year ago

the lane is the unit of analysis, not the supplier

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u/endotoxin_elliemicro17 points·1 year ago

The regional stock question, and why it is the first thing I ask now.

If a supplier holds the line you want in a warehouse in your own region, your order is a domestic shipment. No international leg, no clearance, a shorter cold exposure and a lead time in days rather than weeks. If they do not, it is an international shipment however it is described at checkout.

So the question is not "how fast do you ship" but "which lines do you hold in regional stock, and is the one I want among them". It is one email, the answer is usually a list, and it changes what to order and when — especially in summer.

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u/nils_tulloch15 points·1 year ago

declared value and description are the shipper’s decision, ask what they use

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u/honest_syringe_pls8 points·1 year ago·edited

Where did the time actually go — international leg, clearance, or last mile?

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u/fridge_door_no6 points·1 year ago

The rigid outer with no rattle in it was the thing that told me most about that supplier, before I had tested anything.

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u/sock_puppet_spotter2 points·1 year ago

regional stock changes everything about transit

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u/farid_jansen1 point·1 year ago

no tracking numbers, ever

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u/valeria_karlsen10 points·1 year ago

Correction: that was clearance time, not carrier time. The lane table separates them for exactly this reason.

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u/lina_adebayo6 points·1 year ago·edited

Correction: that was clearance time, not carrier time.

valeria_karlsen is right about regional stock. It changes the shape of the distribution, not just the mean.

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