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[Discussion] can we stop arguing about appeal until somebody posts a number

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can we stop arguing about appeal until somebody posts a number — that is what I am asking, and I have already read the wiki twice.

External review, which is the most underused mechanism discussed on this board.

Internal appeals are decided by the plan. External review sends the determination to an independent body. Where it applies its decision binds the plan, and the deadlines to request it are short and strictly enforced.

The two things that trip people up: not knowing it exists, and exhausting the internal levels so slowly that the external window closes. Ask on the first denial what the external route is and what the deadline will be. Availability and rules vary by jurisdiction and plan type, so say where you are when you ask here.

A denial letter is required to state a reason and to reference the criterion applied. That reference is the handle: request the clinical policy document by its identifier and answer it point by point.

Step therapy requires documented trial of preferred alternatives. It is not an argument to be won on merits; it is a record to be produced, and the record is what the appeal must contain.

If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something. Alone it is an anecdote.

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u/hplc_hobbyistruns their own column567 points·1 year ago

A peer-to-peer conversation puts the prescribing clinician in front of a reviewing clinician. It bypasses the correspondence cycle entirely and is often the fastest available route.

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u/tomas_lehtinen163 points·1 year ago

New plan year, entirely new criteria, and the denial that had been immovable in the autumn simply did not apply in January.

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u/adaeze_cabrera43 points·1 year ago

What is the appeal deadline on the letter?

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[deleted]227 points·1 year ago

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u/appeal_letter_alMOD422 points·1 year ago

Left up. It carries dates, a criterion and an outcome, which is what makes these threads useful.

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u/nnt_nate345 points·1 year ago

What has been documented as tried, and for how long?

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u/runa_wikstrom152 points·1 year ago

a peer-to-peer call is often faster than a written appeal

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u/tuva_aalto640 points·1 year ago

Spent six weeks arguing in general terms and got nowhere. Two paragraphs quoting their own criteria turned it around in eleven days.

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u/canada_coverageOP284 points·1 year ago

Correction: that is a formulary exclusion, not a prior authorisation denial. Different form, different route, different deadline.

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u/vikram_mbeki361 points·1 year ago

I would not skip the peer-to-peer. It is often the fastest route and it costs a phone call.

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u/ferran_batista198 points·1 year ago

This. Step therapy is a paperwork requirement and it is beaten with documentation, not persuasion.

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u/line_petrov174 points·1 year ago

Kept a log with every date, name of department and reference number. When they claimed no record of a call, I had the reference.

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u/rekha_mbeki250 points·1 year ago

Employer-sponsored plans may be regulated differently from individually purchased ones, which changes both the appeal route and which regulator hears a complaint.

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u/nadia_trevino121 points·1 year ago

Asked for the policy bulletin by number and wrote the appeal against its criteria line by line. Approved on the second level after a flat first-level denial.

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u/saskia_lokken74 points·1 year ago

Missed a deadline because I counted from when I opened the envelope. That mistake cost me an entire cycle.

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u/plain_titration_2024-21 points·1 year ago

Internal appeals are decided by the plan. External review is decided by an independent body and, where it applies, its determination is binding. They are separate mechanisms and the second is chronically underused.

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u/liv_kuipers78 points·1 year ago

Documented eighteen months of what had been tried in a one-page table. That table was the appeal.

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u/curious_panel_only57 points·1 year ago

Prior authorisation criteria are republished each plan year. A criterion that blocked you in one year may not exist in the next, so a denial is worth retesting after the turnover.

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u/marisol_moreau40 points·1 year ago

Appeal deadlines run from the date on the determination letter. They are strict, they are short, and a missed deadline usually forfeits that level entirely.

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u/marta_vanhecke25 points·1 year ago

Prior authorisation criteria are republished each plan year.

Disagreeing with this line: the deadline runs from the letter date and treating it otherwise is expensive.

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u/ireland_drugs_pay7 points·1 year ago

the formulary is published, read it before you appeal

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u/kasper_cabrera3 points·1 year ago

Right, and keeping every date and reference number turns a frustrating process into an auditable one.

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u/runa_wikstrom29 points·1 year ago

employer plans and individual plans are different fights

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u/whois_wanda19 points·1 year ago·edited

Is this a prior authorisation denial or a formulary exclusion?

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u/kasper_cabrera28 points·1 year ago

External review was the thing that finally worked. I did not know it existed until a thread on this board.

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u/canada_coverageOP21 points·1 year ago

prior authorisation criteria change every plan year

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u/muscle_cramp_mo12 points·1 year ago·edited

prior authorisation criteria change every plan year

Agreed — and request the bulletin by number. They have to give it to you.

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u/ines_krastev12 points·1 year ago·edited

prior authorisation criteria change every plan year

canada_coverage is right that this is documentation rather than persuasion. It took me a year to accept that.

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u/neha_rahimi22 points·1 year ago

That criterion is from the previous plan year. The current bulletin has different wording.

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