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[Discussion] the appeal advice in here is 2 years out of date

Discussion Long Haul ×9

the appeal advice in here is 2 years out of date, which sounds obvious until you try to state the evidence for it.

Pulling the figures out of the title: 2 years. All of it is written down as it happened rather than reconstructed.

Internal appeals are decided by the plan. External review is decided by an independent body and, where it applies, its determination is binding. They are separate mechanisms and the second is chronically underused.

Appeal deadlines run from the date on the determination letter. They are strict, they are short, and a missed deadline usually forfeits that level entirely.

Corrections welcome, especially the pedantic ones. Pedantry is how this board earns its reputation.

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u/rekha_mbeki47 points·1 year ago

Step therapy requires documented trial of preferred alternatives. It is not an argument to be won on merits; it is a record to be produced, and the record is what the appeal must contain.

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u/appeal_letter_al16 points·1 year ago

Missed a deadline because I counted from when I opened the envelope. That mistake cost me an entire cycle.

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u/honest_syringe1922 points·1 year ago

Yes. Written, always, even when they tell you a phone call is sufficient.

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u/bence_zielinski-12 points·1 year ago

Disagree with the tone strategy. Anger has never moved a determination; matching the criterion has.

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u/muscle_cramp_moOP1 point·1 year ago

Correction: that is a formulary exclusion, not a prior authorisation denial. Different form, different route, different deadline.

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u/solene_eriksen1 point·1 year ago

keep every date, every reference number, every name of a department

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u/saskia_lokken1 point·1 year ago

the diagnosis code on the claim is doing more work than anything you write

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u/plain_titration19 points·1 year ago

Documented eighteen months of what had been tried in a one-page table. That table was the appeal.

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u/ferran_dahlberg10 points·1 year ago

I would not skip the peer-to-peer. It is often the fastest route and it costs a phone call.

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u/elin_lindqvist3 points·1 year ago

This. Step therapy is a paperwork requirement and it is beaten with documentation, not persuasion.

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u/bence_zielinski2 points·1 year ago

Kept a log with every date, name of department and reference number. When they claimed no record of a call, I had the reference.

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u/cardio_endpoint_c1 point·1 year ago

Yes — quoting their own policy bulletin back at them is far more effective than arguing in general terms.

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u/arne_amankwah8 points·1 year ago

deadlines run from the letter date, not from when you opened it

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u/muscle_cramp_moOP5 points·1 year ago

the second-level appeal is where things actually turn

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u/nadia_trevino7 points·1 year ago

Which country and which plan year are we talking about?

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u/line_petrov4 points·1 year ago

the formulary is published, read it before you appeal

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u/muscle_cramp_moOP0 points·1 year ago

Is this a prior authorisation denial or a formulary exclusion?

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u/muscle_cramp_mo1 point·1 year ago

That criterion is from the previous plan year. The current bulletin has different wording.

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u/tomas_lehtinen9 points·1 year ago

Employer-sponsored plans may be regulated differently from individually purchased ones, which changes both the appeal route and which regulator hears a complaint.

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u/hplc_hobbyistruns their own column0 points·1 year ago

Have you asked for the clinical policy bulletin by number?

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u/ferran_batista6 points·1 year ago

Agreed on the plan-year point. Criteria that applied last year may simply not apply now.

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u/vito_beaulieu5 points·1 year ago

document what has been tried and for how long, that is the whole case

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