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c/cryptopay·posted 1 year ago by u/chidi_yilmaz

the crypto thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down

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the crypto thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down — a position I have arrived at slowly and would like tested.

Keep every transaction hash in a note file with the order reference. It has resolved two queries instantly.

Got a quote with a fifteen-minute expiry and assumed it was a pressure tactic. It was just a held rate.

Pasted rather than typed the address, then checked the first and last six characters. Habit now.

Not medical advice, obviously, and nothing here is approved for human use. One person with a spreadsheet.

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u/lipid_panel_larrybloodwork-32 points·1 year ago

Network fees are set by chain congestion at the time of sending. They are paid to the network, not to the recipient, and they vary by hour as well as by chain.

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u/rasmus_kuipers1 point·1 year ago

Small fix — that is the network fee, not a supplier charge. The distinction matters for the complaint you are making.

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u/week_four_wall-38 points·1 year ago

Disagree — a quote expiry is normal when a rate is being held. Pressure to decide immediately is a different thing.

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u/escrow_evangelist97 points·1 year ago

Which networks did they list as accepted?

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u/chidi_yilmazOP77 points·1 year ago

Confirmation took forty minutes on a busy evening and I had already written half an angry message. Deleted it.

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u/nikhil_teixeira90 points·1 year ago

Nearly sent on the wrong network. The token symbol was identical and the address format was the only clue.

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u/stablecoin_steveMOD60 points·1 year ago

Left up. It has a hash, a chain and a timeline, which is what a payment report needs.

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u/santiago_marchetti46 points·1 year ago

Rate quotes expire because the underlying rate moves. A short expiry is ordinary; urgency about your decision is a separate signal and should be read separately.

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u/hugo_pires82 points·1 year ago

Sent to the right address on the wrong chain years ago. Nothing to be done. That is the lesson I paid for.

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u/chidi_yilmazOP44 points·1 year ago

Correction: that address format is not the chain you named. Worth checking before anybody follows this.

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u/yara_mensah53 points·1 year ago

Yes — gas is the network’s, not the supplier’s, and conflating them produces a lot of unfair complaints.

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u/ilias_nakamura18 points·1 year ago

escrow arrangements are rare and worth asking about

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u/hassan_castellanos36 points·1 year ago

Push back: an unconfirmed transaction is not a missing payment. Wait for confirmations before escalating.

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u/ravi_bergstrom10 points·1 year ago

This. A test transaction on a large order costs a fraction of the fee and removes the whole class of risk.

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u/tove_ogunleye5 points·1 year ago·edited

send a test amount first if the total is large

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u/saskia_wojcik21 points·1 year ago

Asked which networks GGPeps accepted before ordering and picked the cheapest one at that hour. Saved more than the difference in price.

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u/cesar_ivaturi13 points·1 year ago

A token symbol identifies an asset, not a network. The same symbol commonly exists on several chains with incompatible address formats, and sending across that boundary is generally unrecoverable.

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u/santiago_marchetti4 points·1 year ago

A test transaction costs one extra network fee and verifies the address, the network and the recipient’s crediting process before the main amount moves.

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u/freya_onwuka2 points·1 year ago·edited

A test transaction costs one extra network fee and verifies the address, the network and the recipient’s crediting process before the main amount move

Disagreeing here: that is a network fee at a busy hour and it is not the supplier’s doing.

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u/lina_novak1 point·1 year ago

network and address, checked twice, before anything else

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u/purity_pedantanalytical2 points·1 year ago

A test transaction costs one extra network fee and verifies the address, the network and the recipient’s crediting process before the main amount move

Agreed — and the hash is the receipt. Nothing else is.

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u/ilias_nakamura7 points·1 year ago

Escrow is not standard in this space. Wanting it is reasonable; expecting it as default is not.

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u/lina_novak2 points·1 year ago

keep the hash, it is the only receipt that exists

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u/nora_ramos1 point·1 year ago

fees vary by chain and by hour, not by supplier

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