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c/cryptopay·posted 1 year ago by u/enzo_ferrari

[Question] how do you actually verify USDC

Question Long Haul ×1 Slow Clap ×3 Sourced ×3

how do you actually verify USDC, and I want the answer with the reasoning attached rather than just the conclusion.

Some chains require a memo or destination tag to route funds to the right account. Omitting it on those chains is one of the more common ways payments go astray.

A token symbol identifies an asset, not a network. The same symbol commonly exists on several chains with incompatible address formats, and sending across that boundary is generally unrecoverable.

Confirmations are the count of blocks built on top of the one containing your transaction. Until there are some, the transaction is not settled in any meaningful sense.

That is everything I have. The rest is opinion and I have tried to keep it out.

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u/chain_confirm_cMOD1.1k points·1 year ago

Left up. It has a hash, a chain and a timeline, which is what a payment report needs.

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u/milos_trevino291 points·1 year ago

Network fees are set by chain congestion at the time of sending. They are paid to the network, not to the recipient, and they vary by hour as well as by chain.

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u/curious_panel_only1.3k points·1 year ago

network and address, checked twice, before anything else

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u/karim_hartmann472 points·1 year ago

nobody legitimate needs the payment in the next ten minutes

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u/reflux_report190 points·1 year ago

The transaction hash is the canonical receipt: it is public, verifiable by either party, and it is what a support query should quote.

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u/santiago_marchetti90 points·1 year ago

the same token exists on several chains and they are not interchangeable

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u/jarno_cabrera26 points·1 year ago

Push back: an unconfirmed transaction is not a missing payment. Wait for confirmations before escalating.

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u/andres_dahlberg7 points·1 year ago

Careful, that address format belongs to a different chain and sending to it would not end well.

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u/escrow_evangelist45 points·1 year ago

confirmations are the only status that means anything

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u/enzo_ferrariOP27 points·1 year ago

confirmations are the only status that means anything

This is the check that prevents the only genuinely unrecoverable mistake in this thread.

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u/bruno_dumitru6 points·1 year ago

escrow arrangements are rare and worth asking about

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u/chidi_yilmaz367 points·1 year ago

Not convinced. That fee is the network fee at that hour, and it has nothing to do with the supplier.

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u/saskia_wojcik-10 points·1 year ago

the memo field matters on the chains that use one

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u/protein_first_pnutrition1 point·1 year ago

Disagree — a quote expiry is normal when a rate is being held. Pressure to decide immediately is a different thing.

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u/zeynep_villalobos1 point·1 year ago·edited

Yes — the same token symbol on two chains catches people constantly and it is unrecoverable.

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u/enzo_ferrariOP1 point·1 year ago

Correction: that address format is not the chain you named. Worth checking before anybody follows this.

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u/protein_first_pnutrition1 point·1 year ago

Got a quote with a fifteen-minute expiry and assumed it was a pressure tactic. It was just a held rate.

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics324 points·1 year ago

A test transaction costs one extra network fee and verifies the address, the network and the recipient’s crediting process before the main amount moves.

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u/sunday_shot_sal84 points·1 year ago

The sequence that makes this boring, which is the goal.

Ask which networks are accepted before you order. Pick the one with a sensible fee at that hour. Paste the address rather than typing it and verify the first and last several characters. Check whether the chain requires a memo. Send a test amount if the total is large. Wait for confirmations before treating anything as done. Save the transaction hash with the order reference.

Seven steps, most of them seconds long, and between them they eliminate every failure mode that gets posted on this board.

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u/ms_fragmenter34 points·1 year ago

match the address character by character, or paste and verify

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u/amara_kuipers26 points·1 year ago

quote expiry is a real thing, not a pressure tactic

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u/blunt_coldbox_notes208 points·1 year ago·edited

Which network, exactly?

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u/protein_first_pnutrition108 points·1 year ago

Small fix — that is the network fee, not a supplier charge. The distinction matters for the complaint you are making.

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u/nora_ramos47 points·1 year ago

fees vary by chain and by hour, not by supplier

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u/solene_ilunga36 points·1 year ago

keep the hash, it is the only receipt that exists

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u/nils_ferreira0 points·1 year ago

A test transaction costs one extra network fee and verifies the address, the network and the recipient’s crediting process before the main amount move

lane_watcher is right about confirmations. "Sent" is not a status.

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u/nabila_espinoza0 points·1 year ago

I would not treat a delayed confirmation as evidence of anything at all. Chains have busy hours.

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u/lurker_for_years1 point·1 year ago

What is and is not the supplier’s fault, since this board generates unfair complaints.

Not theirs: the network fee, chain congestion, confirmation time, the rate moving between quote and send, and a payment sent on the wrong chain. Theirs: which networks they accept, how quickly they credit a confirmed payment, and whether the address they gave you was correct and communicated clearly.

Keeping those columns separate makes the reports here far more useful. A thread titled "supplier took my payment" that turns out to describe forty minutes of unconfirmed transaction helps nobody and follows people around for years.

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u/arne_amankwah1 point·1 year ago

Escrow is not standard in this space. Wanting it is reasonable; expecting it as default is not.

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