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c/coa·posted 1 months ago by u/janek_ferrari

[COA] full document, nothing cropped, tell me what i am missing

COA Well Actually ×9

Posting this because the title is the whole finding — full document, nothing cropped, tell me what i am missing — and a number without its method is a rumour.

How to ask for a batch record without it turning into a negotiation.

One email, three requests: the batch-specific certificate for lot X, the method line behind it, and the storage condition the stability statement was written against. No preamble, no explanation of why you want it.

What comes back is the signal. A full document with the column and gradient printed on it, inside a day, tells you there is a real quality system behind the operation. That is the test I run before I order from anyone new, and it costs nothing.

Area percent is the peak area of your compound over the total integrated area, at one wavelength, on one gradient. It is a relative measure of what the detector saw, not a mass fraction of the vial.

Net peptide content is the fraction of the powder that is actually peptide once counterion, water and residual solvent are accounted for. A 99% pure acetate salt can still be about 85% peptide by mass.

Sceptical readings welcome. The confident ones are the ones I distrust.

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u/dario_boateng43 points·1 months ago

LC-MS gives you identity; UV purity gives you a relative quantity. A document with the first and not the second, or the reverse, is answering half the question.

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u/janek_ferrariOP-33 points·1 months ago

LC-MS gives you identity; UV purity gives you a relative quantity.

Adding the bit that always gets missed: the lot on the vial has to match the lot on the page, or none of this applies to your material.

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u/janek_ferrariOP1 point·1 months ago

Is water content on the document? It changes your concentration arithmetic.

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u/yusuf_nakamura1 point·29 days ago

redact your own name, never the batch details

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u/chidi_demir21 points·1 months ago

Not quite. Two labs with different gradients can resolve a close-eluting impurity differently and both be reporting honestly.

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u/amira_dumitru17 points·29 days ago

post the whole document, not the headline number

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u/emeka_chowdhury15 points·29 days ago

UV at 214nm sees the peptide bond and picks up almost everything; at 280nm you are looking at aromatics only. Which wavelength the number came from is part of the number.

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u/rohan_steiner4 points·29 days ago

identity and quantity are two questions and most documents answer one

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u/janek_ferrariOP3 points·29 days ago

identity and quantity are two questions and most documents answer one

This is the sentence to take away. The rest of the thread is footnotes to it.

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u/ignacio_silva1 point·28 days ago

HPLC-UV and LC-MS answer different questions

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u/anya_moreau2 points·29 days ago

The PDF creation date being later than the analysis date is usually a re-issue or a re-export. It is worth one question and it is not evidence of anything on its own.

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u/aleksi_eriksen12 points·1 months ago

Related substances itemised individually is a much stronger document than a single total, because it tells you the shape of the impurity profile rather than its size.

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u/milos_trevino4 points·1 months ago

the lot on the vial has to match the lot on the page

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u/amylin_amyamylin8 points·29 days ago

My first certificate had a compound name, a percentage and a logo. I thought that was normal. It is not, and now I know what to ask for.

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u/soren_nkemelu5 points·29 days ago

That is the catalogue certificate rather than the batch-specific one. Same layout, completely different status.

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u/rohan_steiner7 points·29 days ago

net peptide content and purity are two different numbers on the same vial

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