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c/survodutide·submitted 1 months ago by u/camila_marchand

does MASH actually matter or is it forum lore at this point

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The title is the whole question — does MASH actually matter or is it forum lore at this point — but here is why I am asking. Independent purity results for this compound are very sparse across the whole site, which means any impression about consistency is built on almost nothing. Nothing containing this compound is…

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u/joaquin_ivaturi8 points·1 months ago

Yes — nothing containing this is approved anywhere, which is the first fact and usually the last one mentioned.

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u/valeria_karlsen9 points·1 months ago

research material is not approved for human use, which is why the clinical record here is thin

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u/tuva_kirchner7 points·1 months ago

the weight numbers are secondary to what this is being developed for

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u/tired_ledger_ftw4 points·1 months ago

What does the tolerability table say at that dose?

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u/renzo_yildiz2 points·1 months ago

Not convinced. Imaging-based fat fraction is not the same as a histological response and the paper is explicit about that.

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u/liver_enzyme_liz0 points·1 months ago

Not convinced.

renzo_yildiz is right that biopsy and imaging endpoints are not interchangeable.

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u/camila_marchandOP2 points·1 months ago

read the histology endpoint definitions before quoting a response rate

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u/vitamin_d_void2 points·1 months ago

Correction: that is the imaging endpoint, not the histological one. The paper reports both and they differ substantially.

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u/milan_mensah1 point·1 months ago

I would not read across from the obesity programmes. Different population, different endpoint, different question.

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u/camila_marchandOP1 point·1 months ago

That figure is from the obesity programme, and this thread is about the hepatic one.

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u/chidi_demir1 point·1 months ago

MASH endpoints are histological, which is a much harder bar

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u/valeria_karlsen1 point·1 months ago·edited

Correction: that is the imaging endpoint, not the histological one.

This is the framing the board needs. It is a hepatic programme first.

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u/lina_ndiaye1 point·1 months ago

biopsy-confirmed is not the same as imaging-suggested

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u/camila_marchandOP1 point·1 months ago

Is that a weight number from a different programme?

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u/cesar_ivaturi1 point·1 months ago

How fast was the escalation in that protocol?

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