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c/survodutide·submitted 5 months ago by u/employer_carveout

stalled for 8 weeks at 1.7mg and I refuse to panic this time

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stalled for 8 weeks at 1.7mg and I refuse to panic this time. Making the case below, and I expect to lose some of it in the comments. Since the title puts numbers in the shop window: 8 weeks and 1.7mg. Asked here what the difference was between the imaging and biopsy endpoints and got a genuinely excellent answer.…

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u/camila_marchand21 points·5 months ago

Sent a vial to VendorInvestigate because there was nothing on file. 97.9% against a claimed 97.0%. First entry for this compound in my own log.

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u/britt_okwuosa30 points·5 months ago

Histological endpoints in this field are scored on biopsy: resolution of steatohepatitis without worsening of fibrosis, or improvement in fibrosis without worsening of steatohepatitis. Both are harder to achieve and to interpret than an imaging surrogate.

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u/renal_outcomes_rnephro-curious17 points·5 months ago

Push back: the evidence here is phase 2, in a specific population, and it does not support a general ranking.

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u/trialwatch_theotrial nerd11 points·5 months ago

Push back: the evidence here is phase 2, in a specific population, and it does not support a general ranking.

This is the framing the board needs. It is a hepatic programme first.

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u/samir_falk27 points·5 months ago

Same. Very thin independent data on this one, which should make everybody here more tentative than they are.

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u/kaia_cabrera10 points·5 months ago

Histological endpoints in this field are scored on biopsy: resolution of steatohepatitis without worsening of fibrosis, or improvement in fibrosis wit

Disagreeing with this bit: that number comes from a different programme with a different population.

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u/tuva_kirchner12 points·5 months ago

read the histology endpoint definitions before quoting a response rate

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u/renal_outcomes_rnephro-curious17 points·5 months ago

I would not read across from the obesity programmes. Different population, different endpoint, different question.

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