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c/orforglipron·posted 7 months ago by u/maren_sorensen

[Lab] CPC orfo — Janoshik came back 98.3% against a claimed 97.5%

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CPC orfo — Janoshik came back 98.3% against a claimed 97.5%. That is the headline. The document, the batch and the service are below so you can argue with the method rather than with me.

Pulling the figures out of the title: 98.3% and 97.5%. All of it is written down as it happened rather than reconstructed.

Assumed the peptide purity conversations transferred and they do not. Different analytical problem entirely.

Nothing containing this compound is approved by any regulator, and research-use-only material is not approved for human use.

If somebody has the same thing measured a different way, post it next to mine and we will see whether they agree.

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u/graph_it_gary57 points·7 months ago

The analytical point, which this board keeps getting wrong by importing habits from the peptide side.

For a peptide, purity is typically reported as area percent by HPLC with identity by mass spectrometry, and the impurity classes are things like deletion and oxidation products. For a small molecule the relevant impurities are synthetic intermediates, degradants and residual solvents, and identity is established differently.

So the certificate you would want looks different, the questions to ask are different, and a "purity" figure quoted here is not comparable to one quoted on the peptide boards. Anybody posting a result should say what method produced it, which is good practice everywhere and essential here.

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u/reship_roulette45 points·7 months ago

It is a non-peptide small-molecule agonist at the GLP-1 receptor. That is a substantial medicinal chemistry achievement: getting a small molecule to activate a receptor evolved for a peptide ligand.

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u/maren_sorensenOP19 points·7 months ago

a non-peptide agonist does not degrade the way a peptide does

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u/bruno_dumitru6 points·7 months ago

Disagree. You are comparing doses across a small molecule and a peptide, which is not a comparison of anything.

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u/incretin_ivyMOD28 points·7 months ago

Corrected a cross-class dose comparison in the title. The body is untouched.

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u/mateusz_mensah0 points·7 months ago

That is a phase 2 result being quoted as though the programme had reported.

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u/hsa_math13 points·7 months ago·edited

Not convinced. Oral semaglutide is a peptide formulated with an absorption enhancer; the comparison you are making does not hold.

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u/whois_wanda3 points·7 months ago

oral and non-peptide is the whole engineering story

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u/canada_coverage2 points·7 months ago

Milligram comparisons across molecule classes are meaningless. Potency is a property of the molecule at its receptor, not of the number on the label.

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u/chidi_yilmaz1 point·7 months ago

Careful — purity methods for peptides do not read across to a small molecule and the numbers are not equivalent.

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u/maren_sorensenOP9 points·7 months ago

Daily dosing, so what does the exposure profile look like across the day?

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u/zeynep_ndiaye-21 points·7 months ago

Daily rather than weekly sounds trivial until you think about what a missed dose means in each case.

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u/meera_sandvik10 points·7 months ago

Went looking for independent testing on this and found essentially nothing, which was clarifying.

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u/gustav_solberg3 points·7 months ago

Right, and comparing milligrams between a small molecule and a peptide is meaningless in either direction.

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