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c/intlshipping·posted 7 months ago by u/nikhil_teixeira

[Discussion] the lane advice in here is 2 years out of date

Discussion Cold Box ×3 Long Haul ×1

the lane advice in here is 2 years out of date, and I am aware this is a minority view on this board.

The relevant figures are 2 years, and they come from the same log I have kept the whole time.

Split one order across two months on purpose to compare summer and winter. Four days apart, same carrier, same route.

Asked QSC which lines they hold regionally before ordering and got a straight list back. Changed what I ordered and when.

Happy to answer the boring questions. Those are usually the ones worth asking.

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u/tove_ogunleye407 points·7 months ago

Regional stock replaces an international lane with a domestic one. That is a structural change to the distribution, not a marginal improvement, and it is why the warehouse question matters more than the carrier question.

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u/quiet_reader_99172 points·7 months ago

Push back: comparing a July transit with a February one on the same lane is not a comparison.

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u/lane_watcherMOD269 points·7 months ago

Left up and added to the lane table. All four required fields were present, which is rarer than it should be.

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u/naomi_ekstrom186 points·7 months ago

Origin, destination, carrier and month?

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u/fatima_asante278 points·7 months ago

Four observations is not a distribution. The lane tables here only became predictive once individual routes had a dozen or more reports behind them.

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u/nikhil_asante153 points·7 months ago

Agreed. Reporting by lane rather than by supplier is what made the tables here actually predictive.

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u/emil_marchand332 points·7 months ago·edited

the lane is the unit of analysis, not the supplier

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u/nikhil_teixeiraOP-34 points·7 months ago

Left up and added to the lane table.

This is why the lane table is organised the way it is. The supplier is not the unit.

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u/niels_yilmaz153 points·7 months ago

Cosigning the seasonality point. February and August on the same lane are different animals.

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u/hedda_adeyemi101 points·7 months ago

Same lane, four orders, 16 to 14 days, all four within a couple of days of the quote. That consistency is the actual finding.

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u/runa_cabrera143 points·7 months ago

Total transit decomposes into first mile, international leg, clearance and last mile. Only the first two are meaningfully under the shipper’s control and most reported variance sits in the last two.

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u/nikhil_teixeiraOP0 points·7 months ago

Small fix — shipped from the regional warehouse, not from origin, which is why the number looks unusual.

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u/tired_ledger_ftw1 point·7 months ago

Careful — the supplier does not control the last mile and most of your variance is in it.

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u/freya_baptista1 point·7 months ago

Median transit is the useful statistic. The minimum is a story about one shipment and the mean is dragged around by a single hold.

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u/blank_injection24 points·7 months ago

A lane is an origin, a destination, a carrier and a season. Change any one and the distribution changes, which is why supplier-level shipping averages are close to meaningless.

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u/blank_injection63 points·7 months ago

Where the time actually goes, which I got wrong for two years.

Total transit is first mile, international leg, customs clearance and last mile. I had been attributing everything to the international leg because that is the part with the exotic-sounding name.

When I finally logged the stages separately, the international leg was the most consistent part of the whole journey. The variance was in clearance and in the domestic delivery at my end — neither of which the supplier controls. That reframed how I read every lane report on this board, and it is why the table separates the stages.

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u/chidi_demir43 points·7 months ago

That is the quoted lead time, not the observed transit. Both belong in the report and they are different columns.

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u/runa_cabrera39 points·7 months ago

A quoted lead time is a commitment you can evaluate. Measuring quoted against actual across several orders tells you more about an operation than the raw speed does.

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u/archived_thread_a24 points·7 months ago·edited

A quoted lead time is a commitment you can evaluate.

Disagreeing with this bit: a single slow shipment does not move a lane, it joins the distribution.

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u/nora_ramos9 points·7 months ago

Disagree. That is a customs hold, not a carrier delay, and lumping them together makes the lane table wrong.

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u/marta_dziedzic12 points·7 months ago

customs clearance time is not carrier time and they get conflated

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u/teodor_szabo28 points·7 months ago

What was the packaging like on arrival?

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u/transit_variance19 points·7 months ago·edited

Packaging is assessable on arrival with no equipment: rigid outer, no movement inside, the cold element sized to the transit rather than to the box.

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