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c/intlshipping·posted 1 year ago by u/elin_ferrari

three years of shipping threads, summarised so you do not have to read them

Question Sourced ×2 Receipts ×1 Slow Clap ×3

three years of shipping threads, summarised so you do not have to read them. Change my mind, genuinely — I have no stake in being right about this.

Packaging is assessable on arrival with no equipment: rigid outer, no movement inside, the cold element sized to the transit rather than to the box.

Regional stock replaces an international lane with a domestic one. That is a structural change to the distribution, not a marginal improvement, and it is why the warehouse question matters more than the carrier question.

Median transit is the useful statistic. The minimum is a story about one shipment and the mean is dragged around by a single hold.

Tell me where this is wrong. That is the useful part of posting it.

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u/fridge_door_no223 points·1 year ago

A quoted lead time is a commitment you can evaluate. Measuring quoted against actual across several orders tells you more about an operation than the raw speed does.

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u/sock_puppet_spotter174 points·1 year ago

Why this board reports by lane and not by supplier.

Two members ordering from the same operation, in the same month, can see completely different transit times because they are on different routes with different carriers and different clearance points. Averaging them produces a supplier-level number that predicts nothing for either of them.

A lane — origin, destination, carrier, month — is the smallest thing that behaves consistently enough to be worth measuring. Once a route has a dozen reports behind it the median is genuinely useful, and that is what the tables on the source pages are built from.

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u/kian_ekstrom42 points·1 year ago

What lead time were you quoted at checkout?

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u/marta_dziedzic15 points·1 year ago

What lead time were you quoted at checkout?

This is why the lane table is organised the way it is. The supplier is not the unit.

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u/ahmed_okafor117 points·1 year ago

Push back: comparing a July transit with a February one on the same lane is not a comparison.

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u/elin_ferrariOP169 points·1 year ago·edited

The rigid outer with no rattle in it was the thing that told me most about that supplier, before I had tested anything.

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u/elin_ferrariOP86 points·1 year ago

Split one order across two months on purpose to compare summer and winter. Four days apart, same carrier, same route.

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u/karim_hartmann68 points·1 year ago

That is the quoted lead time, not the observed transit. Both belong in the report and they are different columns.

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u/neha_mwangi87 points·1 year ago

Ordered from the warehouse in New Zealand instead of origin and the whole customs question disappeared. 4 days, door to door.

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u/archived_thread_a37 points·1 year ago

Where the time actually goes, which I got wrong for two years.

Total transit is first mile, international leg, customs clearance and last mile. I had been attributing everything to the international leg because that is the part with the exotic-sounding name.

When I finally logged the stages separately, the international leg was the most consistent part of the whole journey. The variance was in clearance and in the domestic delivery at my end — neither of which the supplier controls. That reframed how I read every lane report on this board, and it is why the table separates the stages.

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u/elin_ferrariOP14 points·1 year ago

reship policy in writing before you order

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u/archived_thread_a-17 points·1 year ago

Total transit decomposes into first mile, international leg, clearance and last mile. Only the first two are meaningfully under the shipper’s control and most reported variance sits in the last two.

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u/erez_baptista22 points·1 year ago

Where the time actually goes, which I got wrong for two years.

Agreed — and the decomposition matters. Most people are blaming the international leg for a last-mile problem.

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u/chidi_demir14 points·1 year ago

Where did the time actually go — international leg, clearance, or last mile?

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u/transit_varianceMOD22 points·1 year ago

Asked for the month rather than removing. Without it the report cannot be compared to anything.

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u/rosa_sandvik7 points·1 year ago

a lane with four reports is not yet a lane

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u/gradient_goblin11 points·1 year ago·edited

Small fix — shipped from the regional warehouse, not from origin, which is why the number looks unusual.

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u/archived_thread_a14 points·1 year ago

Asked for the month rather than removing.

Adding the field everyone forgets — the month. Without it the report is not comparable to anything.

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u/piotr_grimaldi7 points·1 year ago

Agreed. Reporting by lane rather than by supplier is what made the tables here actually predictive.

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u/marta_dziedzic32 points·1 year ago

Agreed on rigid packaging. It costs the shipper almost nothing and it predicts a lot about the rest of the operation.

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u/honest_syringe1921 points·1 year ago

Clearance took three days and the carrier took nine. I had been blaming the wrong half for two years.

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution16 points·1 year ago

Yes — median rather than best case. The fastest anybody ever got is not a plan.

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u/week_one_wanda12 points·1 year ago

Was it shipped from a regional warehouse or from origin?

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u/farid_jansen3 points·1 year ago

a quoted lead time you can hold them to is worth more than a fast one you cannot

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u/britta_boateng13 points·1 year ago

Right, and the last mile is where my variance has always come from, not the international leg.

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u/protein_first_pnutrition9 points·1 year ago

Four observations is not a distribution. The lane tables here only became predictive once individual routes had a dozen or more reports behind them.

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u/hedda_adeyemi2 points·1 year ago

two identical orders a week apart is the cheapest experiment available

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u/marta_trevino9 points·1 year ago

Correction: that was clearance time, not carrier time. The lane table separates them for exactly this reason.

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