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c/glp1uk·posted 2 years ago by u/crp_curious

someone explain NHS to me like I have not read a paper in years

Private Rx Clean Column ×6 Long Haul ×2 Receipts ×1

Genuine question, and the title is the question: someone explain NHS to me like I have not read a paper in years.

The scheme cap in Ireland was the single most useful thing I learned in a year of reading this board.

Switched pharmacies mid-titration and had to restart the ladder because the concentrations did not line up.

Read the MHRA notice rather than the news coverage and the actual scope was much narrower than the panic threads suggested.

Corrections welcome, especially the pedantic ones. Pedantry is how this board earns its reputation.

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u/blunt_coldbox29343 points·2 years ago

The two routes, described separately, because mixing them is where most of the confusion here starts.

The NHS route in England runs through specialist weight management services commissioned by your ICB. Criteria, waiting times and what happens at discharge are all local decisions, which is why a confident answer from somebody in a different area may be wrong for you.

The private route is an independent transaction: a consultation, a prescription and a pharmacy price. It does not affect your position on any NHS list and it is not a shortcut through one. Both are legitimate; they are simply not the same pathway and they do not connect.

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u/crp_curiousOP147 points·2 years ago

NHS pathway or private prescription?

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u/coring_the_stopper111 points·2 years ago

Which nation, and which ICB if you are in England?

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u/osman_eriksen91 points·2 years ago·edited

I would not read a supply notice as a shortage in your pharmacy tomorrow. They are not the same thing.

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u/crp_curiousOP36 points·2 years ago

Have you seen the current threshold published by your ICB?

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u/lane_watcherMOD245 points·2 years ago

Left up. It names a nation and an ICB, which is all we ask of a pathway post.

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u/camila_marchand88 points·2 years ago

Not convinced — the US threads are a different system entirely and importing their advice here does real harm.

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u/marisol_kravchenko41 points·2 years ago

the Irish scheme cap is the single most useful fact in this board

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u/ines_castellanos68 points·2 years ago

BMI thresholds vary by ICB and by year

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u/ipamorelin_i132 points·2 years ago·edited

Correction: that threshold is your ICB’s, not a national one. They differ and they change by year.

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u/ms_fragmenter100 points·2 years ago

an online consultation that asks you nothing is not a consultation

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u/crp_curiousOP42 points·2 years ago

What did the referral letter actually say?

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u/crosspost_bot_no9 points·2 years ago

Same. My ICB threshold was different from the neighbouring one and nobody could tell me why.

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u/the_poster_in_question_2026276 points·2 years ago·edited

Disagree. That is the pathway in one ICB and it does not generalise even to the next one over.

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u/careful_gradient_notes226 points·2 years ago

GP said no and specialist said yes is a very common sequence

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u/slow_logbook275 points·2 years ago

Did the consultation ask about history and medication?

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u/nhs_waitlist_nUK-5 points·2 years ago

Why the monthly pricing tracker works, and the rule that makes it work.

Members post the pharmacy, the product, the month and the price they actually paid — not an advertised offer, not a first-month discount. No links of any kind are permitted, which removes the entire incentive to post anything other than what happened.

The result is that the spread between pharmacies in a given month is visible, and it is consistently larger than people expect. That single table has saved members here more money than every other thread on the board combined, and it survives only because the no-links rule is enforced without exception.

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u/ilias_steiner1 point·2 years ago

Careful, that pricing figure is a headline offer with conditions attached rather than the actual monthly cost.

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u/meta_analysis_mo131 points·2 years ago

the ICB decides the threshold and they are not the same across England

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u/marit_mensa160 points·2 years ago·edited

private prescription pricing moves monthly and the pharmacy is most of the spread

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u/diego_almeida110 points·2 years ago

Small fix — that is the Scottish pathway. The post is asking about England and the answer is different.

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u/slow_logbook137 points·2 years ago

private and NHS pathways are not a ladder, they are separate routes

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u/pavel_kravchenko160 points·2 years ago

Two years and four months on a tier 3 list. Referral date and every letter kept, which turned out to matter when the service reorganised.

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u/ilias_steiner97 points·2 years ago

Is this a discharge back to the GP, or a discontinuation?

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u/ice_pack_auditcold chain48 points·2 years ago

That is Scotland’s arrangement and the post is asking about England.

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