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c/glp1science·posted 9 months ago by u/sanne_delgado

[Question] mechanism — what am I missing here

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mechanism — what am I missing here. I am not trying to be the "source?" guy. I would just like a source.

Glucose-dependent insulin secretion is why hypoglycaemia risk is low as monotherapy: the effect scales with glycaemia rather than acting unconditionally.

Tolerance to the gastric effect develops with continued exposure while the appetite effect largely persists. That single fact explains most of the "it settles but it still works" pattern the side-effect board reports.

GIP receptor biology is genuinely unsettled — there is a live argument about agonism versus antagonism at the receptor — and the clinical results are robust regardless, which is an uncomfortable and interesting position.

If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something. Alone it is an anecdote.

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u/sig_figs_sammod · analytical395 points·9 months ago

GLP-1 receptor agonism acts both peripherally — insulin secretion in a glucose-dependent way, slowed gastric emptying — and centrally, on appetite regulation. The central component is the better explanation for sustained intake reduction.

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u/osman_eriksen-36 points·9 months ago

gastric emptying slows, it does not stop

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u/farid_kuipers247 points·9 months ago

The half-life explanation was the thing that made weekly dosing intuitive for me rather than arbitrary.

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution193 points·9 months ago

That study was in a rodent model. Worth stating, since the thread has been reading it as human data.

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u/aa_analysis_andy203 points·9 months ago

The incretin effect is the observation that oral glucose provokes a larger insulin response than intravenous glucose at matched glycaemia, and the difference is mediated by gut hormones. That is the foundation the whole class sits on.

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u/brigade_detector136 points·9 months ago

Disagree. That is a preclinical finding in a rodent model and you are stating it as human pharmacology.

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u/milan_mensah109 points·9 months ago

Small fix — it slows gastric emptying, it does not halt it, and the distinction matters for the mechanism you are proposing.

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u/aa_analysis_andy0 points·9 months ago

Spent an evening on the receptor distribution literature and the side-effect map suddenly stopped looking random.

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u/plain_titration1 point·9 months ago

Spent an evening on the receptor distribution literature and the side-effect map suddenly stopped looking random.

Adding the caveat the paper itself makes in its limitations section, which is stronger than anything in this thread.

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u/ingrid_correia114 points·9 months ago

Is there any human data on that mechanism yet?

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u/analog_alphabet91 points·9 months ago

a mechanism you can state is not a mechanism you have demonstrated

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u/ingrid_correia76 points·9 months ago

the peripheral and central stories are not in competition

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u/gradient_goblin62 points·9 months ago

GIP is the arm people argue about because the biology is genuinely unsettled

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u/neha_krastev55 points·9 months ago

preclinical is not clinical and rodents are not small people

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u/viktor_girard43 points·9 months ago

tolerance to the gastric effect develops, appetite effect largely persists

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u/bastian_ekstrom23 points·9 months ago

the central appetite effect is doing more work than the gut effect

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u/aksel_palacios15 points·9 months ago

mechanism explains a direction, not a magnitude

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u/sanne_delgadoOP5 points·9 months ago

Asked a question here that I thought was stupid and got three papers back. Best thread I have been in on this site.

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u/neha_krastev9 points·9 months ago·edited

mechanism explains a direction, not a magnitude

Agreed — and it is why the central and peripheral stories are complementary rather than rival.

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u/sanne_delgadoOP7 points·9 months ago

What does the discussion section say about the limitation you are glossing?

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