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c/coldchain·posted 1 year ago by u/ms_fragmenter

help me understand lyophilised, I have read the wiki twice

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help me understand lyophilised, I have read the wiki twice. Searched first, found three threads that contradict each other, hence the post.

Put a logger in three consecutive orders. Two never went above the range at all and the third spent four hours warm on a Friday. Cost me almost nothing to stop wondering.

A transit temperature logger records a distribution, and time above a threshold matters as much as peak temperature. That is the argument for logging rather than guessing.

Regional stock changes the question rather than answering it: shorter lanes mean less exposure and fewer variables, which is why the warehouse question is worth asking before ordering in summer.

That is everything I have. The rest is opinion and I have tried to keep it out.

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u/marta_ilunga92 points·1 year ago

You cannot infer potency from a temperature record. The record tells you what happened to the box; only a test tells you what happened to the material.

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u/careful_gradient_again28 points·1 year ago

if you want to know, log it, otherwise you are guessing

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u/chidi_abubakar14 points·1 year ago

ask what storage condition the stability statement was written against

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u/rohan_steiner49 points·1 year ago

a warm gel pack tells you the pack failed, not that the material did

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u/nightowl_injector40 points·1 year ago

transit temperature is a distribution, not a number

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u/prior_auth_painappeals22 points·1 year ago

Small fix — refrigerated, not frozen, once it is in solution.

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u/ilias_steiner15 points·1 year ago

a summer lane and a winter lane are different lanes

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u/curious_panel_only17 points·1 year ago·edited

Do you know what storage condition the stability statement covers?

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u/emeka_beaulieu33 points·1 year ago

Correction: that stability figure covers the lyophilised powder, not the reconstituted solution. Different claim entirely.

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u/curious_panel_only16 points·1 year ago

lyophilised powder is far more forgiving than the panic threads suggest

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u/mod_cold_roomMOD47 points·1 year ago

Left up and added to the lane table. Origin, destination and month were all included, which is all we ask.

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u/ms_fragmenterOP27 points·1 year ago

Which lane, and had it been quoted at that transit time?

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u/isabela_nilsen35 points·1 year ago

the excursion that matters is the one after reconstitution

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u/ms_fragmenterOP22 points·1 year ago

write the reconstitution date on the vial

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u/anya_rautio15 points·1 year ago

Yes — reconstitution date on the vial. It is the number you will want and cannot reconstruct.

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u/vito_chowdhury6 points·1 year ago

This. A liquid gel pack on arrival tells you about the pack’s duty cycle, not about the vial.

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u/kofi_ferreira5 points·1 year ago

I would not freeze it in solution. That is a different failure mode and a worse one.

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u/nikhil_asante9 points·1 year ago

the door shelf is the worst place in the fridge

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u/hplc_hobbyistruns their own column10 points·1 year ago

Asked Homopeptide which lines they hold regionally and got a straight list back. That answered my summer ordering question completely.

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u/kian_ekstrom5 points·1 year ago

Same. Door shelf is the worst place in the fridge and it is where everybody puts them.

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