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c/coldchain·posted 11 months ago by u/anders_karlsen

unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about ice pack is guesswork

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unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about ice pack is guesswork — a position I have arrived at slowly and would like tested.

A transit temperature logger records a distribution, and time above a threshold matters as much as peak temperature. That is the argument for logging rather than guessing.

Put a logger in three consecutive orders. Two never went above the range at all and the third spent four hours warm on a Friday. Cost me almost nothing to stop wondering.

You cannot infer potency from a temperature record. The record tells you what happened to the box; only a test tells you what happened to the material.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/sterile_field_steph23 points·11 months ago

Gel packs are designed for a duty cycle. A liquid pack at the end of a longer-than-expected transit is a pack behaving as specified, not evidence of an excursion in the vial.

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u/ice_pack_auditcold chain9 points·11 months ago·edited

That is the ambient temperature at the destination, not the temperature inside the box. The logger measures the second one.

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u/anya_salgado2 points·11 months ago

Split an order across two months deliberately to compare summer and winter transit on the same lane. Four days difference, same carrier.

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u/jarno_adeyemi17 points·11 months ago

Is this a line they hold in regional stock or is it shipping from origin?

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u/milan_mensah4 points·11 months ago

Is this a line they hold in regional stock or is it shipping from origin?

This is the distinction that resolves most threads here — powder and solution are different problems.

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u/coldchain_karencold chain-5 points·11 months ago

How many days in transit, and which month?

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u/kofi_ferreira1 point·11 months ago·edited

How many days in transit, and which month?

Disagreeing with this line only: freezing a reconstituted vial is not a safe default.

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u/anders_karlsenOP3 points·11 months ago

Gel pack fully liquid on arrival, powder tested 97.7% against a claimed 97.5% afterwards. The pack had done its job for as long as it was designed to.

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u/andres_restrepo3 points·11 months ago

Which lane, and had it been quoted at that transit time?

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u/hamza_weiss9 points·11 months ago

Regional stock changes the question rather than answering it: shorter lanes mean less exposure and fewer variables, which is why the warehouse question is worth asking before ordering in summer.

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u/lina_almeida4 points·11 months ago

That is a lane problem rather than a packaging problem, and the fixes are different.

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