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c/coa·submitted 3 months ago by u/first_hundred

reading certificate of analysis threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly

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reading certificate of analysis threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly, and I am aware this is a minority view on this board. UV at 214nm sees the peptide bond and picks up almost everything; at 280nm you are looking at aromatics only. Which wavelength the number came from is part of the number. LC-MS gives you…

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u/ghrp_history290 points·3 months ago

The PDF creation date being later than the analysis date is usually a re-issue or a re-export. It is worth one question and it is not evidence of anything on its own.

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u/dead_space_doug83 points·3 months ago

The four things a certificate must carry, and what each one is for.

Batch identifier ties the document to your vial; without it the document is about somebody else’s material. Date of analysis tells you when the number was true. Method — column, gradient, wavelength — is what makes the figure reproducible rather than asserted. Individual related substances give you the shape of what else is in there.

Everything beyond those four is welcome. Anything missing from them is a question to ask before you order, and in my experience the answer arrives quickly from the suppliers who have a batch record to draw it from.

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u/stablecoin_steve134 points·3 months ago

Not quite. Two labs with different gradients can resolve a close-eluting impurity differently and both be reporting honestly.

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u/coa_collectorarchivist31 points·3 months ago

Agreed — the itemised related substances table is the difference between a document and a receipt.

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[deleted]14 points·3 months ago

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u/first_hundredOP23 points·3 months ago

Small fix — 214nm, not 280nm. It matters here because the impurity you are asking about barely absorbs at the longer wavelength.

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u/emeka_chowdhury8 points·3 months ago

Disagree that a lower number is automatically worse. A conservative claim that survives testing is worth more than an optimistic one that does not.

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u/anya_moreau3 points·3 months ago

That is not what the method line says. It names the technique; it does not certify the operator.

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u/meera_sandvik11 points·3 months ago

Small fix — 214nm, not 280nm.

Disagree on this specific point. Two honest labs can resolve that impurity differently and report different numbers.

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u/emil_agyeman-25 points·3 months ago

HPLC-UV and LC-MS answer different questions

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u/alcohol_aversion-36 points·3 months ago

ask for the storage condition the stability statement was written against

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