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c/coa·submitted 2 years ago by u/anya_moreau

[Discussion] the area percent advice in here is 2 years out of date

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the area percent advice in here is 2 years out of date, which sounds obvious until you try to state the evidence for it. Since the title puts numbers in the shop window: 2 years. UV at 214nm sees the peptide bond and picks up almost everything; at 280nm you are looking at aromatics only. Which wavelength the number…

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u/hugo_bergstrom80 points·2 years ago

Area percent is the peak area of your compound over the total integrated area, at one wavelength, on one gradient. It is a relative measure of what the detector saw, not a mass fraction of the vial.

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u/tidy_vialdrawer_watch28117 points·2 years ago

The PDF creation date being later than the analysis date is usually a re-issue or a re-export. It is worth one question and it is not evidence of anything on its own.

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u/anya_moreauOP85 points·2 years ago

the lot on the vial has to match the lot on the page

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u/soren_nkemelu63 points·2 years ago

Are the related substances itemised or is it a single total?

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u/yannick_haddad55 points·2 years ago·edited

Small fix — 214nm, not 280nm. It matters here because the impurity you are asking about barely absorbs at the longer wavelength.

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u/clara_danquah38 points·2 years ago

Water content 3.8%, acetate 6.2%, purity 99%, net peptide about 90% of label weight. All four numbers honest, and I had to read it twice.

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u/joaquin_ivaturi45 points·2 years ago

post the whole document, not the headline number

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u/gallbladder_gary34 points·2 years ago

Yes — and the reason to ask for the whole page is that the interesting parts are the ones people crop out to fit a screenshot.

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u/reflux_report67 points·2 years ago

identity and quantity are two questions and most documents answer one

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u/clara_danquah44 points·2 years ago

Disagree that a lower number is automatically worse. A conservative claim that survives testing is worth more than an optimistic one that does not.

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u/nadia_kjaer18 points·2 years ago

Right, and net peptide content is where the counterion and the water go. Both numbers can be honest and very different.

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u/dario_vermeulen33 points·2 years ago·edited

identity and quantity are two questions and most documents answer one

reflux_report has the distinction right — one is a fraction of the detector signal, the other is a fraction of the mass.

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u/sofia_ferreira21 points·2 years ago

reflux_report has the distinction right — one is a fraction of the detector signal, the other is a fraction of the mass.

This is the sentence to take away. The rest of the thread is footnotes to it.

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