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c/cagrilintide·posted 10 months ago by u/zaid_balogun

[Meta] proposal — a flair for cagrilintide posts

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proposal — a flair for cagrilintide posts, and it will stay as it is unless somebody makes the case to change it.

Combination and monotherapy arms must be read separately. Efficacy and tolerability both differ substantially between them and summaries routinely blur the two.

Amylin is co-secreted with insulin and acts on satiety and gastric emptying through its own receptor complexes. An amylin analogue is therefore not a variant of an incretin agonist — it is a different signalling axis.

The engineering problem was duration: native amylin is short-acting and aggregation-prone. A long-acting analogue suitable for weekly administration is what makes the combination clinically interesting.

If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something. Alone it is an anecdote.

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u/nl_verzekering434 points·10 months ago

Nothing containing this compound is approved as a standalone product, and research-use-only material is not approved for human use.

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u/incretin_ivyMOD220 points·10 months ago

Independent result added to the log. Thank you for paying for it — there are very few on this compound.

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u/aa_analysis_andy109 points·10 months ago

Agreed — it is an amylin analogue and importing intuitions from the incretin boards produces confident nonsense.

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u/sanne_laurent325 points·10 months ago

this is a less-travelled board and the evidence base shows it

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u/zeynep_zielinski198 points·10 months ago·edited

I would not extrapolate the tolerability profile from the monotherapy arm to the combination. The trials report them separately for a reason.

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u/laila_dumitru119 points·10 months ago

Complementary mechanisms are the rationale for pairing: satiety signalling alongside incretin signalling, rather than more agonism at the same receptor.

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u/ice_pack_auditcold chain95 points·10 months ago

Right, and the tolerability data in the combination arms is the part worth reading properly rather than summarising.

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u/sulphur_burps_sue76 points·10 months ago

satiety signalling rather than incretin signalling

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u/ferritin_low72 points·10 months ago

Right, and the tolerability data in the combination arms is the part worth reading properly rather than summarising.

Adding the standing caveat — nothing here is approved standalone and research material is not for human use.

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u/sulphur_burps_sue30 points·10 months ago

Independent purity data on this compound is sparse compared with the older molecules, simply because far fewer members have paid for testing. Sparse data means wide uncertainty, not a verdict.

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u/liv_dumitru99 points·10 months ago

Went looking for independent results on this and found a handful across the whole site. That is the honest state of the evidence.

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u/tove_vasquez36 points·10 months ago

Dosing intuitions from the GLP-1 boards do not transfer. Different receptor family, different exposure-response, and no published schedule for members to reason from.

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u/amylin_amyamylin9 points·10 months ago·edited

What does the tolerability table in that paper actually say?

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u/noor_vermeulen-20 points·10 months ago

Yes. Anyone reading this board should hold their conclusions loosely until phase 3 reports.

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u/teodor_lokken55 points·10 months ago

Agreed that the monotherapy numbers look modest out of context and that the context is the whole story.

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u/slow_logbook_notes3048 points·10 months ago

Cosigning on the thin independent data. Fewer members test this, so the bands are wider and should be treated that way.

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u/freya_baptista40 points·10 months ago

the interesting data is the combination, not the monotherapy

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u/rekha_mwangi37 points·10 months ago

amylin and GLP-1 are not redundant pathways

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u/wrong_network_w30 points·10 months ago

Careful — that is a dosing intuition carried over from another board and there is no basis for it here.

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u/zaid_balogunOP5 points·10 months ago

Are you comparing against a GLP-1 monotherapy result? They are not comparable.

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u/egfr_watcher21 points·10 months ago

Yes. The combination is where the interesting effect sizes are, and the monotherapy arms read very differently.

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u/sanne_laurent14 points·10 months ago

Correction: that is the combination programme, not the monotherapy readout. Different arms, different numbers.

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u/lane_map_larrylogistics8 points·10 months ago

Small fix — amylin analogue, not a GLP-1 analogue. The whole mechanism argument changes on that word.

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u/zaid_balogunOP9 points·10 months ago

How many separate lots has anyone here tested?

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u/nz_unfunded7 points·10 months ago

Not convinced. Amylin signalling is not a GLP-1 pathway and the mechanism you are proposing conflates them.

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u/zeynep_duarte13 points·10 months ago·edited

Yes.

egfr_watcher is right that the evidence base here is thin. Conclusions should be held loosely.

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u/zaid_balogunOP10 points·10 months ago

read the combination arms separately from the monotherapy arms

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