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c/survodutide·posted 1 year ago by u/nadia_bakker

why does nobody talk about survodutide

Trial Data Sourced ×6

Trying to get a straight answer on this: why does nobody talk about survodutide.

Went slowly because everything published describes a deliberate escalation. That is the extent of what I will say about it.

Assumed the weight numbers were the point and was corrected. They are secondary to what this is being developed for.

Sent a vial to Janoshik because there was nothing on file. 98.3% against a claimed 97.5%. First entry for this compound in my own log.

Tell me where this is wrong. That is the useful part of posting it.

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u/liver_enzyme_lizMOD92 points·1 year ago

Left up. It reads the paper carefully and is explicit about the population.

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u/rafael_sjoberg47 points·1 year ago

research material is not approved for human use, which is why the clinical record here is thin

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[deleted]30 points·1 year ago

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u/preservative_free_p12 points·1 year ago·edited

biopsy-confirmed is not the same as imaging-suggested

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u/kaia_wojcik7 points·1 year ago

dual GLP-1 and glucagon agonist, and the glucagon arm is the story

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u/nadia_bakkerOP35 points·1 year ago

What does the tolerability table say at that dose?

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u/renzo_asante41 points·1 year ago

Yes — histological endpoints are a far harder bar than the surrogate measures people are used to quoting.

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u/liv_vukovic21 points·1 year ago

This. Biopsy-confirmed and imaging-suggested are different evidentiary categories and get run together constantly.

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u/valeria_karlsen58 points·1 year ago

Nothing containing this compound is approved anywhere. Research-use-only material is not approved for human use.

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u/clara_restrepo43 points·1 year ago

Agreed that the endpoint definitions matter enormously and almost nobody reads them before quoting a response rate.

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u/patient_labslip_log62 points·1 year ago

fibrosis improvement without worsening steatohepatitis is the phrase to learn

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u/hub_opssite staff15 points·1 year ago

glucagon agonism and energy expenditure is the mechanistic thread

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u/renzo_asante12 points·1 year ago

this board is small because the compound is early

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u/nadia_bakkerOP18 points·1 year ago

Has anyone posted an independent purity result for this compound?

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