tried food noise for 14 weeks. here is what happened.
The title is the argument: tried food noise for 14 weeks. here is what happened. Here is the rest of it.
Since the title puts numbers in the shop window: 14 weeks.
First month I lost almost nothing and nearly quit. Month two and three were where it all happened.
The appetite thing was the surprise. I expected to feel full. What I got was simply not thinking about food between meals.
Corrections welcome, especially the pedantic ones. Pedantry is how this board earns its reputation.
best — the order this archive was captured in
STEP-1 ran 68 weeks and landed just under 15% mean body weight change on 2.4mg. It is an average of a wide distribution, not a target you have missed.
Genuine question — is the appetite effect still there, or is it just the scale that has paused?
2.4 is a ceiling, not a target
nausea made the first fortnight rough at each step up, then flattened out. Predictable enough that I started planning around it.
the food noise going quiet is the effect people actually describe
the food noise going quiet is the effect people actually describe
Adding one thing to this: the appetite effect and the scale run on separate clocks, so both halves can be true at once.
Are you measuring anything other than weight? Waist is usually the one that keeps moving.
dose day drift of a day either way is fine, the curve barely notices
Dropped my injection day by two days once because of travel. Nothing happened. The panic was worse than the effect.
Delayed gastric emptying is most pronounced early and attenuates with continued dosing, which is why the nausea usually fades at a stable dose.
Do muscle cramps track the day after the shot, or is it there all week?
sema is weekly for a reason, the half-life does the smoothing
the first four weeks are a tolerance check, not a weight-loss phase
the scale is the least sensitive instrument you own
Careful. A four-week stall is inside normal variation and treating it as failure is how people escalate for no reason.
What I would tell week-one me, in order of how much time it would have saved.
One: the first month is a tolerance check. You are finding out whether you can take this, not how much you will lose. Two: write down the dose, the day and the waist measurement. Three: a stall of under six weeks is weather, not climate. Four: early fullness that arrives the day after the shot and fades by day four is the ordinary pattern and it usually settles at a stable dose.
None of that is advice about what you should do. It is the shape of the thing, which nobody explained to me and which the wiki explains better than I just did.
Minor fix — the half-life is about a week, not about a day. The rest of your point stands.
the appetite signal and the scale move on different clocks
Correcting myself from earlier in the thread: I said week 2 and it was week 6. Same shape, wrong number.
the ladder exists because the gut needs the time, not because the pharmacy likes paperwork
The weekly interval comes out of the half-life — roughly a week — so you are on a smooth curve rather than a series of spikes. That is also why moving your day slightly does very little.
the ladder exists because the gut needs the time, not because the pharmacy likes paperwork
Right, and the timescale is the bit that keeps getting lost. Judge a step at a month, not at a weekend.
Disagree. 2.4 is the top of the label, not the goal, and "everyone ends up there" is just survivorship in the posts you read.
Research-use-only material is not approved for human use, so anything in this thread about how a compounded or research vial "should" behave is a chemistry discussion, not a dosing one.
On the "everybody ends up at 2.4" claim, which comes up every few weeks.
The escalation schedule in the trials was designed to get people to a fixed study dose. Real use is not a trial. The dose that keeps your appetite quiet with side effects you can live with is the dose, and for a lot of people on this board that has been 0.25mg for a very long time.
The counter-argument, which is fair: some people genuinely do need the top of the range, and staying low out of caution costs them months. That is a conversation with someone who knows your history, not with us.
staying at 0.5mg for an extra month is a legitimate plan
Small correction: 2.4mg is the maintenance ceiling on the label, not the starting maintenance dose. The distinction matters for anyone reading this later.
Sat at 0.5mg for four months because it was doing the job. Everyone told me to go up. The one time I did, the only thing that changed was the reflux.
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