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c/semaglutide·submitted 1 year ago by u/chidi_demir

[PSA] Wegovy is not what most of this community thinks it is

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Wegovy is not what most of this community thinks it is. If you already knew this, the post is not for you and you can scroll on. Steady state after a dose change takes four to five half-lives, so the fair judgement point on a new step is about a month, not four days. The escalation schedule in the trials existed to…

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u/ines_castellanos115 points·1 year ago

STEP-1 ran 68 weeks and landed just under 15% mean body weight change on 2.4mg. It is an average of a wide distribution, not a target you have missed.

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u/customs_seizure_sid138 points·1 year ago

The mental model that finally made this click for me: there are two curves, and people watch the wrong one.

The first is exposure, which is set by the dose and smoothed by a week-long half-life. It changes when you change the dose and then settles over about a month. The second is body weight, which is exposure filtered through appetite, food, water, sleep, training and the scale itself, and which moves in steps rather than a line.

Almost every "it stopped working" post is somebody watching curve two over a fortnight and drawing conclusions about curve one. If the appetite effect is still there, exposure is fine. Wait the month.

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u/chidi_demirOP78 points·1 year ago

Do sulphur burps track the day after the shot, or is it there all week?

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u/leila_vasquez59 points·1 year ago

the appetite signal and the scale move on different clocks

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[deleted]24 points·1 year ago

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u/enzo_danquah18 points·1 year ago

staying at 0.25mg for an extra month is a legitimate plan

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u/marit_coelho111 points·1 year ago

The mental model that finally made this click for me: there are two curves, and people watch the wrong one.

Right, and the timescale is the bit that keeps getting lost. Judge a step at a month, not at a weekend.

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u/kenji_demir93 points·1 year ago·edited

Minor fix — the half-life is about a week, not about a day. The rest of your point stands.

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u/chidi_demirOP0 points·1 year ago

Small correction: 2.4mg is the maintenance ceiling on the label, not the starting maintenance dose. The distinction matters for anyone reading this later.

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u/rasmus_kimani113 points·1 year ago

This matches me almost exactly, right down to the sulphur burps showing up on the second day and being gone by the fourth.

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