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c/semaglutide·posted 2 years ago by u/ahmed_abubakar

reading Ozempic threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly

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reading Ozempic threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly — a position I have arrived at slowly and would like tested.

Weight change and appetite change are different endpoints on different timescales. Conflating them is where most of the confusion on this board starts.

Week 88: 40kg down, reflux basically gone since about week 7, and the honest headline is that nothing dramatic happened. It was boring and it worked.

The appetite thing was the surprise. I expected to feel full. What I got was simply not thinking about food between meals.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/two_mil_or_one611 points·2 years ago

Steady state after a dose change takes four to five half-lives, so the fair judgement point on a new step is about a month, not four days.

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u/micro_bump_mick0 points·2 years ago

Sat at 2.4mg for four months because it was doing the job. Everyone told me to go up. The one time I did, the only thing that changed was the fatigue.

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u/ahmed_abubakarOP1 point·2 years ago

Correcting myself from earlier in the thread: I said week 2 and it was week 10. Same shape, wrong number.

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u/dose_creep_dan1 point·2 years ago

STEP-1 ran 68 weeks and landed just under 15% mean body weight change on 2.4mg. It is an average of a wide distribution, not a target you have missed.

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u/sofia_wikstrom1 point·2 years ago

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use, so anything in this thread about how a compounded or research vial "should" behave is a chemistry discussion, not a dosing one.

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u/greta_lokken1 point·2 years ago

The escalation schedule in the trials existed to keep people on the drug. It is a tolerability ramp, and it is why the label reads the way it does.

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u/meta_analysis_mo230 points·2 years ago

Delayed gastric emptying is most pronounced early and attenuates with continued dosing, which is why the reflux usually fades at a stable dose.

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u/ines_castellanos51 points·2 years ago·edited

Delayed gastric emptying is most pronounced early and attenuates with continued dosing, which is why the reflux usually fades at a stable dose.

meta_analysis_mo is describing the standard shape here and it matches the trial data better than most anecdotes do.

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u/dose_creep_dan184 points·2 years ago

The weekly interval comes out of the half-life — roughly a week — so you are on a smooth curve rather than a series of spikes. That is also why moving your day slightly does very little.

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u/vikram_ferreira145 points·2 years ago

Disagree. 2.4 is the top of the label, not the goal, and "everyone ends up there" is just survivorship in the posts you read.

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u/sofia_wikstrom123 points·2 years ago

Did protein intake change in the same window?

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u/ahmed_abubakarOP180 points·2 years ago

the first four weeks are a tolerance check, not a weight-loss phase

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u/ahmed_abubakarOP102 points·2 years ago

Kept a log from week one and the single most useful column turned out to be waist, not weight.

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u/dose_creep_dan0 points·2 years ago

Kept a log from week one and the single most useful column turned out to be waist, not weight.

Adding one thing to this: the appetite effect and the scale run on separate clocks, so both halves can be true at once.

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u/oskar_kaufmann60 points·2 years ago·edited

Did protein intake change in the same window?

Right, and the timescale is the bit that keeps getting lost. Judge a step at a month, not at a weekend.

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u/rafael_ostergaard48 points·2 years ago

This matches me almost exactly, right down to the fatigue showing up on the second day and being gone by the fourth.

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u/oskar_ibarra14 points·2 years ago·edited

First month I lost almost nothing and nearly quit. Month two and three were where it all happened.

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u/units_not_mgsyringe math51 points·2 years ago

Yes — and the honest version is that most of the "it stopped working" posts turn out to be a normal fortnight of water weight.

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