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c/reconstitution·posted 2 years ago by u/katrin_marchetti

someone explain dead space to me like I have not read a paper in years

Correction Clean Column ×9 Slow Clap ×2

someone explain dead space to me like I have not read a paper in years. If this has been answered properly somewhere, link me and I will delete.

If your calculation produces a fraction of a unit, the concentration is wrong for your dose. Change the water volume until the numbers land on whole units.

Bacteriostatic water contains benzyl alcohol as a preservative, which is what makes repeated entry into the same vial reasonable. Plain sterile water has no preservative.

The lyophilised cake displaces a small volume, so the true concentration is very slightly lower than the arithmetic suggests. It is a fraction of a percent and it is dwarfed by fill tolerance.

If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something. Alone it is an anecdote.

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u/honest_syringe_maybe155 points·2 years ago

The arithmetic in full: concentration is mass over volume, so 10mg into 2mL gives 5mg/mL. A U-100 syringe is graduated at 100 units per millilitre, so 2mg is 2 divided by 5 millilitres, which is 40 units.

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u/vito_beaulieu0 points·2 years ago·edited

What is written on the vial right now?

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u/emil_okwuosa1 point·2 years ago

How many mg in the vial and how many mL are you adding?

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u/marisol_frisk128 points·2 years ago

Aim the stream down the wall of the vial rather than into the cake. Reconstitution is a solubility problem, not a mixing problem, and mechanical shear does nothing helpful.

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u/nadia_kjaer103 points·2 years ago·edited

Disagree with the "more water is safer" framing. It is not safer, it is just a different number to divide by.

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u/marisol_frisk58 points·2 years ago

Disagree with the "more water is safer" framing.

nadia_kjaer has the units point exactly right. They are a volume on the barrel and nothing else.

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u/hedda_ekstrom77 points·2 years ago·edited

Adding more water does not change how much peptide is in the vial. It changes the concentration, which changes the volume you draw for the same amount. That is the entire relationship.

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u/honest_syringe_maybe51 points·2 years ago

Same. I got this wrong once, caught it because the units looked absurd, and have written on every vial since.

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u/cardio_endpoint_c21 points·2 years ago

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use, so treat everything in this thread as arithmetic about solutions rather than instructions for a person.

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