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c/newbiequestions·posted 1 year ago by u/ms_fragmenter

three years of beginner threads, summarised so you do not have to read them

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three years of beginner threads, summarised so you do not have to read them. I have gone back and forth on this for months.

Appetite change and weight change are different measurements on different timescales. The first is usually noticed first and the second lags it.

Titration is a tolerance ladder. Each step exists so the gastrointestinal effects settle before the next increase, which is why the intervals are what they are.

A certificate of analysis is a document describing one batch: what was tested, by what method, and what the result was. Its value depends entirely on whether it names the batch and the method.

That is everything I have. The rest is opinion and I have tried to keep it out.

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u/plain_titration371 points·1 year ago

I confused two very similar words on my first order and asked here, expecting to be mocked. Three people explained it properly instead.

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u/gentle_correctionnice about it243 points·1 year ago

Yes. The starting dose is a tolerance step. It is not supposed to do very much.

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u/dexa_twice_yearlybody comp87 points·1 year ago

no question is too basic here, that is the entire point of the board

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u/sanne_laurent186 points·1 year ago

Same. The injection was the thing I was most nervous about and the thing that turned out to matter least.

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u/fabio_nkemelu41 points·1 year ago

search first, but a repeat question is not a crime

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u/elise_grimaldi13 points·1 year ago·edited

search first, but a repeat question is not a crime

Agreed, and for anyone finding this later: that is the normal experience, not a warning sign.

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[deleted]136 points·1 year ago

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u/ms_fragmenterOP101 points·1 year ago

Pen or vial?

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u/solene_abubakar35 points·1 year ago

What is the actual question underneath the question? Happy to answer both.

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u/ms_fragmenterOP50 points·1 year ago

Is this your first step up or the starting dose?

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u/constipation_clubside effects20 points·1 year ago·edited

That is area percent from a certificate, not the amount of peptide in the vial. Two different numbers and a very common mix-up.

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u/escrow_evangelist32 points·1 year ago

Is this your first step up or the starting dose?

This is the answer. Everything else in the thread is elaboration on it.

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u/britt_abubakar124 points·1 year ago

Has the appetite changed, even if the scale has not?

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u/yannick_salinas32 points·1 year ago·edited

The injection was scarier in my head than in reality. It took about ten seconds and I felt slightly silly afterwards.

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u/hugo_norgaard-10 points·1 year ago

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use. That is a plain statement of regulatory fact and it belongs in every beginner thread.

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u/nordic_pricing113 points·1 year ago

Bacteriostatic water contains a preservative, which is what makes repeated entry into a vial reasonable. Sterile water does not, and the two are not interchangeable for that purpose.

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u/nightowl_injector84 points·1 year ago

The vocabulary, once, since half the questions here are really vocabulary questions.

Titration is stepping the dose up slowly for tolerance. Reconstitution is adding water to a freeze-dried powder. Bacteriostatic water contains a preservative; sterile water does not. COA is a certificate of analysis — a lab document about one batch. Area percent is a purity measure from that document, and it is not the amount of peptide in the vial. Units are a volume on an insulin syringe, not a dose.

That is most of the jargon on this site. The wiki has the longer version of each and it is linked in the sidebar.

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u/nordic_pricing32 points·1 year ago

read the wiki first, then ask anyway

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u/britt_zamora76 points·1 year ago

Careful — that is a dosing recommendation dressed as an anecdote, and this board removes those.

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u/greta_perrin22 points·1 year ago

appetite change usually shows up before the scale does

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u/laila_yilmaz32 points·1 year ago

Asked what a COA was in my first week. Somebody linked the explainer and I have been reading them ever since.

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u/aurel_mwangi25 points·1 year ago·edited

Gently disagree with the framing — nothing has gone wrong. Week 13 looking flat is the ordinary experience.

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u/sigrid_kaufmann15 points·1 year ago·edited

Gently disagree with the framing — nothing has gone wrong.

Slight disagreement with this bit only, because a beginner reading it might take it as a plan rather than a description.

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