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c/insurancefights·submitted 2 years ago by u/janoshik_junkie

does external review actually matter or is it forum lore at this point

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does external review actually matter or is it forum lore at this point — that is what I am asking, and I have already read the wiki twice. Peer-to-peer took fifteen minutes and resolved something a written appeal had been sitting on for a month. New plan year, entirely new criteria, and the denial that had been…

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u/marta_vanhecke32 points·2 years ago

I would not skip the peer-to-peer. It is often the fastest route and it costs a phone call.

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u/vikram_mbeki26 points·2 years ago

I would not skip the peer-to-peer.

marta_vanhecke is right that this is documentation rather than persuasion. It took me a year to accept that.

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u/ferran_batista0 points·2 years ago

Yes. Written, always, even when they tell you a phone call is sufficient.

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u/hamza_weiss1 point·2 years ago

Yes — quoting their own policy bulletin back at them is far more effective than arguing in general terms.

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u/blunt_coldbox_notes1 point·2 years ago

the denial letter names the criterion, start there

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u/janoshik_junkieOPindependent tester-6 points·2 years ago

Yes.

Adding the underused one — external review. Independent, binding where it applies, and hardly anybody gets that far.

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u/kian_balogun1 point·2 years ago

Employer-sponsored plans may be regulated differently from individually purchased ones, which changes both the appeal route and which regulator hears a complaint.

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u/RetaAndRegret21 point·2 years ago·edited

Agreed. The denial letter tells you which criterion failed, and answering that specific criterion is the entire job.

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u/kasper_cabrera18 points·2 years ago

That advice is jurisdiction-specific and this board spans several. Say where you are.

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u/nnt_nate6 points·2 years ago

keep every date, every reference number, every name of a department

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u/ferran_batista4 points·2 years ago

Documented eighteen months of what had been tried in a one-page table. That table was the appeal.

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u/ahmed_abubakar1 point·2 years ago

prior authorisation criteria change every plan year

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u/maren_ibarra3 points·2 years ago

Careful — the deadline runs from the date on the letter. Waiting for a call back can cost you the appeal entirely.

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u/nnt_nate1 point·2 years ago

ask for the clinical policy bulletin by number

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