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c/glp1canada·posted 9 months ago by u/liv_dumitru

[Discussion] Canada is doing more work than we give it credit for

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The title is the argument: Canada is doing more work than we give it credit for. Here is the rest of it.

Criteria changed at plan renewal and the denial that had been immovable simply did not apply any more.

Compared cash prices across four pharmacies before pursuing coverage and the spread was larger than I expected.

The pharmacist sorted in five minutes what the phone line had not managed in a fortnight.

If somebody has the same thing measured a different way, post it next to mine and we will see whether they agree.

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u/zeynep_duarte208 points·9 months ago

Special authorization is a documented exception process with published criteria. Applications that answer those criteria explicitly, point by point, fare better than general clinical narratives.

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u/camila_mensa101 points·9 months ago

Small fix — that formulary position is another province’s and does not apply here.

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u/mei_cardoso209 points·9 months ago

Disagree — that is your province’s formulary position and it does not carry to another.

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u/first_pen_fear129 points·9 months ago

Is there a quantity limit involved rather than a coverage refusal?

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u/karim_restrepo-12 points·9 months ago

Push back: approval by the national regulator says nothing about whether any plan will pay.

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u/liv_dumitruOP1 point·9 months ago

Correcting myself: it was a quantity limit rather than a denial, which changes the whole process.

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u/erez_baptista1 point·9 months ago

formulary decisions are provincial, so the province is the first fact

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u/karim_ilunga1 point·9 months ago

Careful, that criterion was updated at renewal and the version you are quoting is superseded.

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u/liv_dumitruOP1 point·9 months ago

Those criteria were revised at renewal, so the version quoted upthread is out of date.

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u/liv_dumitruOP1 point·9 months ago

a denial letter names a criterion, that is your handle

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u/search_before_post1 point·9 months ago

Right, and the pharmacist can usually give a definite answer faster than a week of forum speculation.

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u/hair_shed_hannah1 point·9 months ago

Same view — private and provincial plans are genuinely different processes with different appeal routes.

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u/anya_antonsen53 points·9 months ago·edited

Yes. Cash prices vary and comparing them before assuming coverage is the only route is worth doing.

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u/osman_ferrari80 points·9 months ago

I would not read one pharmacy’s cash price as the going rate. The spread is real.

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u/sanne_novak49 points·9 months ago

Moved provinces and the coverage position changed completely. Same person, same history, different formulary.

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u/elin_varga71 points·9 months ago

private plans and provincial plans are different fights entirely

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u/ahmed_rasmussen57 points·9 months ago

Formulary criteria are revised, and plan renewal is a natural point at which a previously refused request may succeed without anything about the applicant changing.

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u/spreadsheet_gremlindata21 points·9 months ago

the pharmacist is often the fastest route to a definite answer

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics30 points·9 months ago

That is an employer plan process, and the provincial route is different in both form and timeline.

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u/hair_shed_hannah35 points·9 months ago·edited

Spent three weeks on what turned out to be a quantity limit rather than a coverage question.

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u/lipid_panel_larrybloodwork26 points·9 months ago

Agreed on keeping every form and date. When something goes wrong the paper trail is the whole case.

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u/mariam_mensa16 points·9 months ago

A rejected claim at the pharmacy counter and a denied authorization are different events with different remedies. The first can be an administrative or quantity issue; the second is a determination you can appeal.

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u/zeynep_duarte12 points·9 months ago

Read the special authorization criteria and wrote the application against them line by line. Approved first time after a previous refusal.

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