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c/glp1aus·posted 1 year ago by u/lipid_panel_larry

[Discussion] TGA is doing more work than we give it credit for

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TGA is doing more work than we give it credit for, which sounds obvious until you try to state the evidence for it.

Registration by the therapeutic goods regulator establishes that a product may be supplied. Subsidy listing is a separate decision about public funding, with its own criteria and its own timetable.

Compounded supply arrangements have changed materially in recent years. Advice predating that change describes a situation that no longer applies.

Australia and New Zealand have different regulators, different funding bodies and different arrangements. An answer for one is not evidence about the other.

If somebody has the same thing measured a different way, post it next to mine and we will see whether they agree.

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u/laila_dumitru132 points·1 year ago

Subsidy criteria and authority requirements are published. For eligibility questions those documents are authoritative and this board is not.

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u/karim_ilunga41 points·1 year ago·edited

do not import US advice into an Australian thread

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u/britt_abubakar14 points·1 year ago

Read the published criteria for my indication rather than asking. Twenty minutes, and it answered everything I had been guessing at.

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u/sena_balogun0 points·1 year ago

Personal importation provisions exist, are narrow, and carry conditions. Any summary of them here should be checked against the current official wording rather than a forum post.

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u/zeynep_ndiaye1 point·1 year ago

keep the script and the receipt for private health claims

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u/tobias_barros108 points·1 year ago

Pharmacy-level availability and national supply are different questions: a pharmacy can be out while the wholesaler is not, and the pharmacist can check in minutes.

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u/rosa_sandvik61 points·1 year ago

The compounded arrangements changed while I was mid-thread and I was arguing from a superseded position.

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u/noor_hovland15 points·1 year ago

the shortage listing has an expected resolution date on it

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u/sena_balogun49 points·1 year ago

Correction: that is the registration decision, not the subsidy listing. They are made by different bodies.

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u/lipid_panel_larryOPbloodwork26 points·1 year ago·edited

Checked the shortage database myself instead of reading the coverage. Expected resolution date was right there and the panic thread was wrong.

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u/renal_outcomes_rnephro-curious82 points·1 year ago

Did the pharmacy check with the wholesaler, or is that a shelf observation?

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u/pavel_halvorsen65 points·1 year ago·edited

I would not treat one pharmacy’s quote as the national price. Variation between them is substantial.

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u/adnan_sandvik19 points·1 year ago

The national shortage database is a primary source with expected resolution dates attached. It is public, searchable, and consistently more accurate than reporting about it.

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u/lipid_panel_larrybloodwork6 points·1 year ago

personal importation rules exist and are narrow

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u/usp_appendixcompendial37 points·1 year ago

Yes — importing US threads into an Australian question produces confident nonsense every single time.

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u/aussie_pbs_watchAU-18 points·1 year ago

Disagree — that is registration status, and the question was about subsidy. Different decisions, different bodies.

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u/sarcopenia_watch1 point·1 year ago

PBS criteria are published and searchable

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u/fridge_door_no41 points·1 year ago

pharmacy stock and national supply are different questions

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u/zeynep_zielinski33 points·1 year ago

the TGA shortage database is public and it is the source, not the news

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u/anecdata_annie10 points·1 year ago

say which state only if it matters, but always say which country

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u/nl_verzekering4 points·1 year ago

Yes — the shortage database is the source. The news coverage of it is downstream and usually a week behind.

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u/lipid_panel_larryOPbloodwork6 points·1 year ago

Correcting myself: the compounded position changed and my earlier comment was describing the old one.

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u/lipid_panel_larryOPbloodwork4 points·1 year ago

What did the pharmacy quote for the private price?

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