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c/glp1aus·posted 1 year ago by u/sten_rautio

the TGA question that gets asked weekly, answered properly

Pricing Clean Column ×8 Well Actually ×1

the TGA question that gets asked weekly, answered properly, which sounds obvious until you try to state the evidence for it.

Subsidy criteria and authority requirements are published. For eligibility questions those documents are authoritative and this board is not.

Assumed the New Zealand position applied here. It does not, and someone corrected me politely with the actual source.

Rang three pharmacies for a private price and got three different numbers, all in the same city.

Ask me anything specific. Anything general I will probably get wrong.

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u/ignacio_silva339 points·1 year ago

The national shortage database is a primary source with expected resolution dates attached. It is public, searchable, and consistently more accurate than reporting about it.

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u/aussie_pbs_watchAU97 points·1 year ago

Someone posted US advice in an Australian thread and it took four replies to untangle it. Say your country.

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u/sten_rautioOP60 points·1 year ago

Correction: that is the registration decision, not the subsidy listing. They are made by different bodies.

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u/hedda_adeyemi173 points·1 year ago

Australia and New Zealand have different regulators, different funding bodies and different arrangements. An answer for one is not evidence about the other.

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u/emil_barros82 points·1 year ago

Australia and New Zealand have different regulators, different funding bodies and different arrangements.

Disagreeing with this bit: that advice predates the change in compounded arrangements.

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u/sten_rautioOP62 points·1 year ago

a streamlined authority code is not the same as a general listing

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u/camila_sandvik28 points·1 year ago

the Medsafe position in New Zealand is its own thing entirely

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u/ayesha_radich116 points·1 year ago

the TGA shortage database is public and it is the source, not the news

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u/ayesha_radich27 points·1 year ago

I would not treat one pharmacy’s quote as the national price. Variation between them is substantial.

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u/emil_wojcik88 points·1 year ago

Cosigning on asking the pharmacy to check the wholesaler. It converts speculation into a fact in one phone call.

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u/sten_rautioOP63 points·1 year ago

private script pricing varies by pharmacy here too

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u/lipid_panel_larrybloodwork69 points·1 year ago

Disagree — that is registration status, and the question was about subsidy. Different decisions, different bodies.

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u/peptidemeter_pat23 points·1 year ago

Personal importation provisions exist, are narrow, and carry conditions. Any summary of them here should be checked against the current official wording rather than a forum post.

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u/tomas_kimani81 points·1 year ago

Have you checked the shortage database directly?

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u/lyophile_lou95 points·1 year ago

Yes — importing US threads into an Australian question produces confident nonsense every single time.

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u/arne_amankwah18 points·1 year ago

Compounded supply arrangements have changed materially in recent years. Advice predating that change describes a situation that no longer applies.

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u/adnan_sandvik-34 points·1 year ago

Australia and New Zealand are separate systems and get conflated weekly

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u/hplc_hobbyistruns their own column1 point·1 year ago

Australia and New Zealand are separate systems and get conflated weekly

Agreed — the database rather than the coverage, every time.

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u/blunt_coldbox_202410 points·1 year ago·edited

Small fix — that is the New Zealand arrangement, and the question is about Australia.

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u/border_paperwork3 points·1 year ago

the price you pay depends on the listing status of your indication

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u/ferran_mensah0 points·1 year ago

Pharmacy-level availability and national supply are different questions: a pharmacy can be out while the wholesaler is not, and the pharmacist can check in minutes.

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u/valeria_girard1 point·1 year ago

That is a pharmacy-level stock issue rather than a national supply issue. They feel identical and are not.

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u/zeynep_ndiaye1 point·1 year ago

Same. Private pricing varies here as much as anywhere and people assume it is fixed.

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u/phase_two_pete1 point·1 year ago

do not import US advice into an Australian thread

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u/nz_unfunded1 point·1 year ago

PBS listing and TGA registration are two different questions

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u/devils_advocate_d29 points·1 year ago

Is this about registration or about subsidy?

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u/lane_watcherMOD22 points·1 year ago

Pharmacy staff name removed; the pharmacy itself can stay in a pricing post.

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u/peptidemeter_pat11 points·1 year ago

Pharmacy staff name removed; the pharmacy itself can stay in a pricing post.

This is the distinction that makes the rest of the board legible.

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