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c/cryptopay·posted 10 months ago by u/reverse_image_ron

[Discussion] can we stop arguing about USDC until somebody posts a number

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can we stop arguing about USDC until somebody posts a number, and I want the answer with the reasoning attached rather than just the conclusion.

Confirmation took forty minutes on a busy evening and I had already written half an angry message. Deleted it.

Rate quotes expire because the underlying rate moves. A short expiry is ordinary; urgency about your decision is a separate signal and should be read separately.

Sent a test amount first on a large order. Cost me a fraction of a percent and I have done it every time since.

Sceptical readings welcome. The confident ones are the ones I distrust.

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u/salma_baptista203 points·10 months ago

Network fees are set by chain congestion at the time of sending. They are paid to the network, not to the recipient, and they vary by hour as well as by chain.

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u/reverse_image_ronOP150 points·10 months ago

the supplier cannot reverse it and neither can you

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u/salma_baptista53 points·10 months ago

the supplier cannot reverse it and neither can you

reverse_image_ron is right about confirmations. "Sent" is not a status.

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u/hassan_nilsen13 points·10 months ago

a payment sent on the wrong network is usually gone

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u/teodor_jansen43 points·10 months ago

Small fix — that is the network fee, not a supplier charge. The distinction matters for the complaint you are making.

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u/reverse_image_ronOP89 points·10 months ago

Which networks did they list as accepted?

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u/reverse_image_ron168 points·10 months ago·edited

match the address character by character, or paste and verify

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u/ms_fragmenter58 points·10 months ago·edited

The sequence that makes this boring, which is the goal.

Ask which networks are accepted before you order. Pick the one with a sensible fee at that hour. Paste the address rather than typing it and verify the first and last several characters. Check whether the chain requires a memo. Send a test amount if the total is large. Wait for confirmations before treating anything as done. Save the transaction hash with the order reference.

Seven steps, most of them seconds long, and between them they eliminate every failure mode that gets posted on this board.

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u/sten_palacios14 points·10 months ago

Which network, exactly?

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u/reverse_image_ronOP149 points·10 months ago

Did you send a test amount first?

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u/kaia_cabrera41 points·10 months ago

Agreed that quote expiry is ordinary. Rates move and a time-limited quote is not a pressure tactic on its own.

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u/niels_lindqvist56 points·10 months ago

The transaction hash is the canonical receipt: it is public, verifiable by either party, and it is what a support query should quote.

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u/stablecoin_steve81 points·10 months ago

Nearly sent on the wrong network. The token symbol was identical and the address format was the only clue.

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u/chain_confirm_cMOD203 points·10 months ago

Left up. It has a hash, a chain and a timeline, which is what a payment report needs.

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u/nils_ferreira56 points·10 months ago

Confirmations are the count of blocks built on top of the one containing your transaction. Until there are some, the transaction is not settled in any meaningful sense.

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u/andres_dahlberg15 points·10 months ago

Careful, that address format belongs to a different chain and sending to it would not end well.

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u/neha_rahimi10 points·10 months ago

Memo requirements are chain-specific. The chain you are describing does not use one.

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u/reverse_image_ron115 points·10 months ago

A test transaction costs one extra network fee and verifies the address, the network and the recipient’s crediting process before the main amount moves.

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u/laila_almeida71 points·10 months ago

Some chains require a memo or destination tag to route funds to the right account. Omitting it on those chains is one of the more common ways payments go astray.

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u/sten_palacios27 points·10 months ago

A token symbol identifies an asset, not a network. The same symbol commonly exists on several chains with incompatible address formats, and sending across that boundary is generally unrecoverable.

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u/stablecoin_steve6 points·10 months ago

Got a quote with a fifteen-minute expiry and assumed it was a pressure tactic. It was just a held rate.

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u/tove_ogunleye8 points·10 months ago

Not convinced. That fee is the network fee at that hour, and it has nothing to do with the supplier.

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u/nils_ferreira3 points·10 months ago

escrow arrangements are rare and worth asking about

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