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c/coldchain·submitted 2 years ago by u/india_generic_g

[Meta] the stability rule is doing its job and people should stop complaining

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the stability rule is doing its job and people should stop complaining — posting the reasoning in public because a policy you cannot inspect is just a preference. On loggers, since I was sceptical and then bought one. A small transit logger costs a fraction of a vial and records the whole journey rather than the…

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u/ice_pack_auditMOD372 points·2 years ago

Merged into the seasonal thread for that lane so the reports sit together.

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u/cesar_teixeira159 points·2 years ago

Agreed on seasonality. The same lane in February and August is not the same lane.

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u/india_generic_gOP196 points·2 years ago

the excursion that matters is the one after reconstitution

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[deleted]88 points·2 years ago

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u/india_generic_gOP286 points·2 years ago

Small fix — refrigerated, not frozen, once it is in solution.

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u/ines_lindqvist64 points·2 years ago·edited

That is the ambient temperature at the destination, not the temperature inside the box. The logger measures the second one.

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u/anjali_tamm121 points·2 years ago

I would not freeze it in solution. That is a different failure mode and a worse one.

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