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c/coa·posted 5 months ago by u/soren_nkemelu

[Vendor] GGPeps vs GL Biochem on the same compound, same month — both cleared 99.0%

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Posting this because the title is the whole finding — GGPeps vs GL Biochem on the same compound, same month — both cleared 99.0% — and a number without its method is a rumour.

The numbers the title promised, since a headline without them is worthless: 99.0%. Everything below is context for those.

Area percent is the peak area of your compound over the total integrated area, at one wavelength, on one gradient. It is a relative measure of what the detector saw, not a mass fraction of the vial.

Net peptide content is the fraction of the powder that is actually peptide once counterion, water and residual solvent are accounted for. A 99% pure acetate salt can still be about 85% peptide by mass.

I will update this if the picture changes rather than quietly leaving it up.

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u/certified_referenceMOD1k points·5 months ago

Reminder: a question about a document is not an accusation about a supplier, and posts that blur the two get retitled.

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u/andres_restrepo828 points·5 months ago

Batch number and date of analysis, are both on there?

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u/kavya_verhoeven486 points·5 months ago

The PDF creation date being later than the analysis date is usually a re-issue or a re-export. It is worth one question and it is not evidence of anything on its own.

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u/amara_halonen210 points·5 months ago

UV at 214nm sees the peptide bond and picks up almost everything; at 280nm you are looking at aromatics only. Which wavelength the number came from is part of the number.

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u/spreadsheet_gremlindata175 points·5 months ago·edited

That is the catalogue certificate rather than the batch-specific one. Same layout, completely different status.

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u/dario_boateng-37 points·5 months ago

Right, and net peptide content is where the counterion and the water go. Both numbers can be honest and very different.

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u/emeka_beaulieu1 point·5 months ago·edited

Right, and net peptide content is where the counterion and the water go.

Disagree on this specific point. Two honest labs can resolve that impurity differently and report different numbers.

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u/dead_space_doug1 point·5 months ago

batch number, date of analysis, method, individual impurities — that is the minimum set

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u/rohan_steiner1 point·5 months ago

area% is not mass%, and the difference is the whole game

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u/vito_chowdhury1 point·5 months ago

the lot on the vial has to match the lot on the page

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u/nabila_espinoza1 point·5 months ago

Agreed on asking for the storage condition. It is one line and it changes how you read the entire stability claim.

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u/chidi_demir1 point·5 months ago

Disagree on this specific point.

Adding the bit that always gets missed: the lot on the vial has to match the lot on the page, or none of this applies to your material.

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u/wrong_network_w231 points·5 months ago

Why the same vial can honestly produce three different numbers.

Purity by area percent is relative to what the detector saw on one gradient at one wavelength. Net peptide content subtracts counterion, water and residual solvent. Mass of peptide per vial is net content times fill weight, and fill weight has its own tolerance.

So a document reading 99% purity, 6% acetate and 4% water is describing a vial that is about 90% peptide by mass, and every one of those numbers is honest. The mistake is treating the headline figure as the answer to "how much peptide did I get".

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u/blunt_coldbox29185 points·5 months ago

LC-MS gives you identity; UV purity gives you a relative quantity. A document with the first and not the second, or the reverse, is answering half the question.

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u/karma_irrelevant170 points·5 months ago

Water content 3.8%, acetate 6.2%, purity 99%, net peptide about 90% of label weight. All four numbers honest, and I had to read it twice.

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u/low_appetite_lisa68 points·5 months ago

Pushing back a little: a missing field is usually presentation, not concealment. Ask for the full document before drawing conclusions.

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u/karma_irrelevant56 points·5 months ago

net peptide content and purity are two different numbers on the same vial

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u/sofia_danquah32 points·5 months ago·edited

Pushing back a little: a missing field is usually presentation, not concealment.

low_appetite_lisa has the distinction right — one is a fraction of the detector signal, the other is a fraction of the mass.

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u/laila_wojcik26 points·5 months ago

Asked for the storage condition behind the stability statement. Got it in a sentence. It is a two-line email and almost nobody sends it.

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u/anya_moreau100 points·5 months ago

Ask what the stability statement was written against — temperature, light, and whether it was the lyophilised powder or the reconstituted solution. Those are three different claims.

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