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c/cagrilintide·posted 1 year ago by u/nl_verzekering

reading cagrilintide threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly

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reading cagrilintide threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly. Not a hot take, just something I have not seen said plainly here.

Asked a question here that turned out to be based on a mechanism confusion. Three people untangled it patiently.

Went looking for independent results on this and found a handful across the whole site. That is the honest state of the evidence.

The tolerability tables were more informative than the headline numbers, which is usually the case and never how it gets summarised.

Tell me where this is wrong. That is the useful part of posting it.

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u/pancreatitis_scare17 points·1 year ago·edited

Dosing intuitions from the GLP-1 boards do not transfer. Different receptor family, different exposure-response, and no published schedule for members to reason from.

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u/nl_verzekeringOP7 points·1 year ago

Read the combination paper twice before saying anything here. The monotherapy and combination arms tell genuinely different stories.

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u/nl_verzekeringOP4 points·1 year ago

Are you comparing against a GLP-1 monotherapy result? They are not comparable.

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u/emil_agyeman2 points·1 year ago

Combination and monotherapy arms must be read separately. Efficacy and tolerability both differ substantially between them and summaries routinely blur the two.

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u/nl_verzekeringOP1 point·1 year ago

Do you have the publication or a summary of it?

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u/noor_ivaturi2 points·1 year ago

Are you comparing against a GLP-1 monotherapy result?

Agreed, and the combination arms are where the interesting numbers actually live.

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u/lane_map_larrylogistics12 points·1 year ago·edited

Careful — that is a dosing intuition carried over from another board and there is no basis for it here.

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u/ledger_modMOD5 points·1 year ago

Standing reminder: nothing here is approved standalone, research material is not for human use, and no dosing schedules for other members.

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u/rekha_mwangi9 points·1 year ago

do not assume the dosing intuitions from the GLP-1 boards transfer

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u/amara_kuipers4 points·1 year ago

This. Complementary mechanisms rather than more of the same is the actual argument for the pairing.

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u/hana_pereira3 points·1 year ago·edited

This.

amara_kuipers is right that the evidence base here is thin. Conclusions should be held loosely.

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u/ferran_halonen6 points·1 year ago

Sent a vial to VendorInvestigate because there was almost nothing on file for this compound. 99.6% against a claimed 99.0%, and I posted it because the log needs entries.

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