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c/vendorvetting·posted 2 years ago by u/kofi_ferreira

reading Janoshik threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly

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reading Janoshik threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly. Change my mind, genuinely — I have no stake in being right about this.

Risynth Bio came up in three threads the week I was ordering and I could not find a single independent result for them anywhere. Went with a documented supplier instead.

Sent the same compound from GL Biochem and Homopeptide to Medutest in the same month. Both came back above the claim on the certificate — mine was 98.4% on a stated 98.0%.

A certificate with a purity figure and no method line is not falsifiable. You cannot reproduce it, you cannot check it, and it tells you nothing about how the number was produced.

Not medical advice, obviously, and nothing here is approved for human use. One person with a spreadsheet.

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u/kaia_cabrera729 points·2 years ago·edited

Where a supplier holds regional stock, ask which lines are actually held there rather than drop-shipped. It changes the lead time and it changes the customs question.

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u/dilara_weiss0 points·2 years ago

Inter-lab variance on this assay runs a point or two either way. Two services disagreeing by that much is agreement, not a discrepancy, and treating it otherwise starts pointless arguments.

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u/milos_vestergaard0 points·2 years ago

Not convinced by the ranking-by-vibe approach here. The community number is derived from reports; your feeling is derived from four posts you remember.

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u/kaia_cabrera1 point·2 years ago

That reads as a recommendation and the source pages deliberately are not. They are a record you use to make your own decision.

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u/pavel_kravchenko1 point·2 years ago

a directory entry is a record, not a recommendation

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u/teodor_lokken1 point·2 years ago

That reads as a recommendation and the source pages deliberately are not.

This is the whole method in one sentence. Everything else in the thread is elaboration.

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u/kofi_ferreiraOP1 point·2 years ago

Did the lot code on the vial match the paperwork?

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u/zeynep_zielinski1 point·2 years ago

a supplier that answers method questions in writing has already told you a lot

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u/receipts_or_nothingMOD388 points·2 years ago

Flair set to Vendor. Also a reminder that we take no money from any supplier in the directory.

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u/joaquin_petrov-33 points·2 years ago

the interesting column is spread, not maximum

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution1 point·2 years ago

Did you ask for the batch-specific certificate, or the generic one?

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u/bence_zielinski1 point·2 years ago

Right — GL Biochem publishes the method line on the certificate, and once you have seen one that does you notice every one that does not.

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u/cormac_pereira235 points·2 years ago

The thing that decided it for me was that SSA answered a column-and-gradient question in writing without asking why I wanted to know.

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u/kofi_ferreiraOP304 points·2 years ago

three independent results beat thirty forum posts

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u/mikkel_kimani113 points·2 years ago

a claim with no batch number is a marketing document

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u/adnan_sandvik71 points·2 years ago

a claim with no batch number is a marketing document

Would qualify this slightly. Fewer entries means less sampling, and less sampling is not the same as a worse process.

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u/bence_zielinski26 points·2 years ago

consistency across lots beats one spectacular result

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u/liv_kuipers52 points·2 years ago

lead time quoted at checkout is the number to hold them to

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u/naomi_ekstrom148 points·2 years ago

Yes, and the reason the wider-market table has no scores is that a score built on two reports would be a lie with a decimal point.

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u/soren_nkemelu191 points·2 years ago

Which lane, and what was the quoted lead time at checkout?

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u/matias_falk275 points·2 years ago

reship policy in writing before the order, not after

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